EPTDreamHack Winter 2011 Day 3 - Page 221
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On November 27 2011 03:27 netsky4 wrote: What shall that suppose to mean? He outplayed Puma and won .. that means that despite puma's great drop play game went into the late stage, and puma couldn't deal with the colossus-templar-archon-chargelot-stalker-20 gateways-2-robo deathball. whether it was due to nightend's superior skill or some other reason, each shall decide for himself. | ||
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On November 27 2011 03:18 mTw|NarutO wrote: All-in is not a term that is defined by its outcome, but by what you put on the line. If you all-in in poker and you win, you still did all-in. If you all-in in Starcraft 2 and you win, it still was all-in. Same with dealing damage. If it worked, its easy to say "now I can take my expansion". Its a whole different story if you play something that deals guaranteed damage and the costs are also valueable, but 1-1-1 with sending scvs is allin by all means as its not guaranteed to deal enough damage that you could even out the game. You either win or lose. I don't know about you but I have never encountered a decently executed 1-1-1 being used against me or in pro games that hasn't resulted in a fairly even trade which puts the terran even with the protoss or slightly behind in the worst case scenario if scvs are pulled. Even than there is a phase 2 following after that and if you don't have the bulk of your army alive,you are so fucked. That's why I have never considered the 1-1-1 to be a allin.It's kinda like a 7 gate in pvZ that servers as a reset button when you kill of the zergs third and than have the choice to commit or back out.This leaves you in a pretty good position as 2 base toss against a 2 base zerg.Same as with terrans feel really comfortable playing against protoss on even number of bases because their income will always be higher and they will have the more cost efficient units,and if toss decides to go this 1 base colo play they just stop tank production after 3 and mass up banshees than proceed to own everything because the protoss has no gass units on the ground that can shoot air because of the gas invested in colos from 1 base. I really do not understand why terrans stopped doing 1-1-1s so much,its almost as if it fell out of style for no reason as I have never really seen a effective counter to it. The best way to deal with it imo and they way I have seen that the build was stopped more or less cost effective is to get a fast expo and than rush for observers while trying to get as many gates up as you can and than try to intercept the terran army while their tanks are unsieged or sandwich it with a proxy pylon out on the map,kinda like a zerg does with lings.I don't know,its really a very very interesting situation in the meta game that this build creates. | ||
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