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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints -Map complaints -Stream complaints -Caster/player bashing -Off topic discussions
Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage! |
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
Yeah, EMP sucks against late game protoss. Just like banshees suck against roaches.
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What's the result of Happy vs Sjow game 2?
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Happy-Sjow: World of Tanks
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On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.
Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.
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On November 26 2011 07:28 Sadistx wrote: What's the result of Happy vs Sjow game 2? Sjow about to lose, Happy to take the series.
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
<3 awww, I wish that statement were true
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These TvTs have been so bad
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Switzerland2892 Posts
On November 26 2011 07:28 Sadistx wrote: What's the result of Happy vs Sjow game 2?
1-0 for happy and he has a huge supply lead in game 2
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TvP sucks as a matchup. If the Terran player clearly has no multitask ability, Protoss won't lose, even when he has no multitask ability either. Just sitting there making a death ball. Mana's micro consists of blinking stalkers back so zealots are at the front instead of using extra hot keys. All units are clumped, and colossi aren't even a moved properly.
And Kas decided pure bio with minimal tech units was a good idea anyway. The fact that Mana's style wins lots of games (to the extent people called him best vT in the world) is why Protoss play stagnated in all match ups for so long. Need more people like Hero.
Obviously, 'play to win' is very important and Mana probably knows Kas can't beat a deathball and he doesn't know how to exploit mid game colossi weakness either. Terminus obv should be blamed too.
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On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely. Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.
Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?
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On November 26 2011 07:30 Micket wrote: TvP sucks as a matchup. If the Terran player clearly has no multitask ability, Protoss won't lose, even when he has no multitask ability either. Just sitting there making a death ball. Mana's micro consists of blinking stalkers back so zealots are at the front instead of using extra hot keys. All units are clumped, and colossi aren't even a moved properly.
And Kas decided pure bio with minimal tech units was a good idea anyway. The fact that Mana's style wins lots of games (to the extent people called him best vT in the world) is why Protoss play stagnated in all match ups for so long. Need more people like Hero.
Obviously, 'play to win' is very important and Mana probably knows Kas can't beat a deathball and he doesn't know how to exploit mid game colossi weakness either. Terminus obv should be blamed too.
Someone intelligent in this thread, rejoice.
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On November 26 2011 07:12 Kilby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:03 Olinimm wrote:On November 26 2011 07:02 Kilby wrote:On November 26 2011 06:59 sleepingdog wrote:On November 26 2011 06:58 Kilby wrote: WhiteRa is absolutely awesome. How many other pro player do you know who have been at the absolute top of the game at pro level for as long as he has.
He is probably the number 1 foreigner of all time. Easily. Giyom would like a word - still, WhiteRa is amazing and just overall loveable. I can still remember Demuslim casting a WhiteRa-game, going on and on how you can never be angry at him even if he stomps you  The fact that I even need to Google for Giyom tells me otherwise. Your ignorance doesn't constitute a sufficient argument, my apologies. Actually it does and that was the point. I was not around for SC1 and so I can tell you for sure that Giyom has not been a big deal for SC2 at all. So considering SC2 as well WhiteRa would overcome. So if someone was an absolute insane monster beast in, lets say, football 20 years ago and I wasnt watching then, I can just say "Doesnt matter, I had to google for him" if someone points out that maybe he's better than this other guy that is really good right now?
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Grrr won an OSL... The only non-korean ever to do that.
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On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely. Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.
Don't even bother with him, look at his post count. Probably just a troll account
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On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.
No you can't convince ANY player with a brain with those stupid arguments.
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The word from korea is that protoss is now favored in tvp, but well.. who knows for sure
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These guys aren't no Panzer generals.
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On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely. Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you. Its a great demonstration of self contradiction.
EMP doesn't matter because storm is too good.
My mind, it's blown!
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On November 26 2011 07:31 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote: Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious? EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely. No you can't convince ANY player with a brain with those stupid arguments.
Well, is kinda funny you said it, because most of P players actually doesn't have them ))
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Wow you guys are unbelievable. So many people here thinking they are master strategists and they have the game figured out
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