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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions
Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
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On November 26 2011 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:12 ZenithM wrote:
"Happy is not as mechanically sound as Sjow." Happy keeps getting supply-blocked, Sjow doesn't. Sjow keeps throwing away units in bad engagements rather than decisively seizing the moment, Happy doesn't. It all evens out.
I've seen NaDa get triple supply blocked before , Happy had one of the best mechanics in entire wc3 history hovering around 300 apm with unbeliavably micro ( according to grubby, the best undead micro he had ever seen), sjow competes with goody for the lowest, people get supply blocked.
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On November 26 2011 07:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:20 HolyArrow wrote:On November 26 2011 07:11 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:09 Derez wrote:On November 26 2011 07:03 Rikke wrote:
Whats up with the Terrans? -_- I'd argue that the skillgap between korean T's and foreigner T's is huge, and much larger then the gap for P/Z. There are simply not that many foreigner terrans that can compete, which this tournament is proving yet again. DH should have gotten themselves some more koreans, makes for a much more fun tourney. It's a sad day when I find myself cheering for PuMa ;p. That's why the likes of GanZi and TOP lose to 36-35 PvT interntional TLPD like Gatored. This argument doesn't stand An exception to a trend does not debunk the entire trend. XD. Korean terrans are getting smashed by korean protoss in code S, what else do you want?
Smashed? Hardly. A single Protoss has made it to the semifinals for the first time since GSL July. I'm not sure what GSL you've been watching.
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On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?
Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
User was warned for this post
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On November 26 2011 07:16 Kilby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:10 R!! wrote:On November 26 2011 07:07 Kilby wrote:On November 26 2011 07:00 mki wrote:On November 26 2011 06:58 Kilby wrote:
WhiteRa is absolutely awesome. How many other pro player do you know who have been at the absolute top of the game at pro level for as long as he has.
He is probably the number 1 foreigner of all time. Easily. It's pretty early to talk about #1 foreign players of all time. You'd have to include SC1 into this discussion because SC2 is too young to call players best of all time. And when you include SC1 then there are a bunch of names which come to mind... Well, the good thing about talking about #1 foreigner of all time is that you can talk about them at any point in time. You don't need to wait for a new extension to come into play or more tourmanents to take place. You can talk about them at any point in time because they have such long history. And in my opinion the best would be WhiteRa. Just look at what he accomplished in BW and how he remained relevant in SC2 beta and then in SC2 after publish and even now. That guy is a legend. I really don't wanna be condescending but how can you even begin to talk about the best players of all time with such a limited knowledge?Grrrr was the only foreign player to ever win an OSL and you don't even recognize him (or his akas), not that I think that you know how big of a deal that is. Ok I admit that I don't know who was the #1 best foreigner in SC1 but when you talk about the best foreigner in Starcaft overall you have to take SC2 into account and in that sense I would imagine WhiteRa would rank pretty highly since he appanretly had some pretty big wins in SC1 as well.
You probably shouldn't these kinds of post if you don't know the history of starcraft. White-ra was a damn good foreigner, but as Idra has said, being a good foreigner is like doing well in retard school (not the exact quote, but captures the same meaning). In SC2, Whitera has done well, but he hasn't actually won much. If anything, IdrA has had way more success (in both SC1 and SC2).
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
Yes. Yes it does.
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On November 26 2011 07:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:20 HolyArrow wrote:On November 26 2011 07:11 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:09 Derez wrote:On November 26 2011 07:03 Rikke wrote:
Whats up with the Terrans? -_- I'd argue that the skillgap between korean T's and foreigner T's is huge, and much larger then the gap for P/Z. There are simply not that many foreigner terrans that can compete, which this tournament is proving yet again. DH should have gotten themselves some more koreans, makes for a much more fun tourney. It's a sad day when I find myself cheering for PuMa ;p. That's why the likes of GanZi and TOP lose to 36-35 PvT interntional TLPD like Gatored. This argument doesn't stand An exception to a trend does not debunk the entire trend. XD. Korean terrans are getting smashed by korean protoss in code S, what else do you want?
2 T, 1P, 1Z RO4, clearly getting crushed.
Edit: My point is, its looking pretty good at all tournies right now. Every game I've watched at DH the loser makes a clear mistake.
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
Do you seriously think it doesn't???
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
The question is, are you serious?
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
Obviously, the HT were clumped up the whole time.
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
I sincerely hope you're joking
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
And here we go.
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On November 26 2011 07:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:20 HolyArrow wrote:On November 26 2011 07:11 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:09 Derez wrote:On November 26 2011 07:03 Rikke wrote:
Whats up with the Terrans? -_- I'd argue that the skillgap between korean T's and foreigner T's is huge, and much larger then the gap for P/Z. There are simply not that many foreigner terrans that can compete, which this tournament is proving yet again. DH should have gotten themselves some more koreans, makes for a much more fun tourney. It's a sad day when I find myself cheering for PuMa ;p. That's why the likes of GanZi and TOP lose to 36-35 PvT interntional TLPD like Gatored. This argument doesn't stand An exception to a trend does not debunk the entire trend. XD. Korean terrans are getting smashed by korean protoss in code S, what else do you want?
10-14 is hardly being smashed. More like undeserving terrans who were only in code S because GSL's flawed system were getting weeded out.
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On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?
Just to continue the chain..
... you're joking, right?
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On November 26 2011 07:23 Toppp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:On November 26 2011 07:12 ZenithM wrote:
"Happy is not as mechanically sound as Sjow." Happy keeps getting supply-blocked, Sjow doesn't. Sjow keeps throwing away units in bad engagements rather than decisively seizing the moment, Happy doesn't. It all evens out. Really? I just saw Sjow vs ToD and sjow got supply blocked TONS of times.
I am referring to his series with Happy.
On November 26 2011 07:23 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:On November 26 2011 07:12 ZenithM wrote:
"Happy is not as mechanically sound as Sjow." Happy keeps getting supply-blocked, Sjow doesn't. Sjow keeps throwing away units in bad engagements rather than decisively seizing the moment, Happy doesn't. It all evens out. I've seen NaDa get triple supply blocked before , Happy had one of the best mechanics in entire wc3 history hovering around 300 apm with unbeliavably micro ( according to grubby, the best undead micro he had ever seen), sjow competes with goody for the lowest, people get supply blocked.
And yet despite his "one of his best mechanics in entire wc3 history", he is constantly getting supply-blocked in a passive TvT.
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1 volley from 20 tanks kills every marine xD
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On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas? Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game? The question is, are you serious?
EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.
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What does the fucking post say at the top? It says no fucking balance discussion. This is not new.
Jesus fucking Christ you people.
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On November 26 2011 07:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:20 HolyArrow wrote:On November 26 2011 07:11 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:09 Derez wrote:On November 26 2011 07:03 Rikke wrote:
Whats up with the Terrans? -_- I'd argue that the skillgap between korean T's and foreigner T's is huge, and much larger then the gap for P/Z. There are simply not that many foreigner terrans that can compete, which this tournament is proving yet again. DH should have gotten themselves some more koreans, makes for a much more fun tourney. It's a sad day when I find myself cheering for PuMa ;p. That's why the likes of GanZi and TOP lose to 36-35 PvT interntional TLPD like Gatored. This argument doesn't stand An exception to a trend does not debunk the entire trend. XD. Korean terrans are getting smashed by korean protoss in code S, what else do you want?
You mean that one protoss in semifinals after beating a terran whos worst mu is tvp 3-2 means every protoss are smashing terrans in gsl?
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