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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 25 2011 22:32 GMT
#4841
this tvt is torture, plz end soon
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 25 2011 22:32 GMT
#4842
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4843
As a terran player this TvT series is so frustrating to watch.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4844
On November 26 2011 07:32 Al Bundy wrote:
Wow you guys are unbelievable. So many people here thinking they are master strategists and they have the game figured out

and you take a shower in LR how rude!
Stork[gm]
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4845
Happy moving his entire army and then sieging tanks in order to clear out 3 marines. This game is full of questionable decisions.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4846
On November 26 2011 07:33 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:32 Al Bundy wrote:
Wow you guys are unbelievable. So many people here thinking they are master strategists and they have the game figured out

and you take a shower in LR how rude!


No respect in LR these days, i tell ya :p
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4847
Tasteless has to be kicking himself watching such a TvT after GSL :p
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#4848
On November 26 2011 07:32 Tsubbi wrote:
this tvt is torture, plz end soon


Tank / Marine where neither player knows how to break a siege line is torture
TvT can be fun
mlspmatt
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada404 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4849
On November 26 2011 07:31 Kira__ wrote:
The word from korea is that protoss is now favored in tvp, but well.. who knows for sure

Yeah, the meta game changes fast and people are so used to Terran bashing that they haven't stopped to consider that maybe with the latest changes things have changed some.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4850
On November 26 2011 07:24 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:16 Kilby wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:10 R!! wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:07 Kilby wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:00 mki wrote:
On November 26 2011 06:58 Kilby wrote:
WhiteRa is absolutely awesome. How many other pro player do you know who have been at the absolute top of the game at pro level for as long as he has.

He is probably the number 1 foreigner of all time. Easily.


It's pretty early to talk about #1 foreign players of all time. You'd have to include SC1 into this discussion because SC2 is too young to call players best of all time. And when you include SC1 then there are a bunch of names which come to mind...


Well, the good thing about talking about #1 foreigner of all time is that you can talk about them at any point in time. You don't need to wait for a new extension to come into play or more tourmanents to take place. You can talk about them at any point in time because they have such long history. And in my opinion the best would be WhiteRa. Just look at what he accomplished in BW and how he remained relevant in SC2 beta and then in SC2 after publish and even now. That guy is a legend.

I really don't wanna be condescending but how can you even begin to talk about the best players of all time with such a limited knowledge?Grrrr was the only foreign player to ever win an OSL and you don't even recognize him (or his akas), not that I think that you know how big of a deal that is.


Ok I admit that I don't know who was the #1 best foreigner in SC1 but when you talk about the best foreigner in Starcaft overall you have to take SC2 into account and in that sense I would imagine WhiteRa would rank pretty highly since he appanretly had some pretty big wins in SC1 as well.


You probably shouldn't these kinds of post if you don't know the history of starcraft. White-ra was a damn good foreigner, but as Idra has said, being a good foreigner is like doing well in retard school (not the exact quote, but captures the same meaning). In SC2, Whitera has done well, but he hasn't actually won much. If anything, IdrA has had way more success (in both SC1 and SC2).


Well, I'm sorry if my posts offend you but my point was that WhiteRa has actually done very much for Starcraft overall and he is probably the number 1 foreigner overall considering SC1 and SC2. Admittably I do not know everything about SC1 history and maybe Idra can compete but I don't know if he has equally long bacground. As far as I have understood WhiteRa has been kicking ass longer than Idra.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4851
On November 26 2011 07:31 Kira__ wrote:
The word from korea is that protoss is now favored in tvp, but well.. who knows for sure


Let's let the GSL results speak for themselves. I'll be eagerly watching to see if the race composition numbers even out somewhat next season. As of now, things look fairly optimistic towards that happening.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4852
Non korean TvT sure is painful to watch.
So much for the "most developed and interesting mirror matchup."
More like the longest snooze low multitasking tank sieging fest...
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4853
SjoW didn't gg yet? :O
I turned off the stream because it was over
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4854
On November 26 2011 07:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Man, I fucking love Jinro. He's one of the top 5 pros who I would buy a beer for!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4855
happy is so bad.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
PG13
Profile Joined November 2011
117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:35:27
November 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#4856
I'd actually like to hear what Jinro thinks about TvP as a matchup now. Hope he shares his opinion.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4857
sjow vs happy best of 9 GO!
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4858
Happy is rly frustrating not to attack zzzz I dont know why he prefers goin around all the map instead of trying a move. W/E "GG"...
EEhantiming
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada519 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4859
Happy vs SjoW 2-0
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4860
On November 26 2011 07:34 mlspmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:31 Kira__ wrote:
The word from korea is that protoss is now favored in tvp, but well.. who knows for sure

Yeah, the meta game changes fast and people are so used to Terran bashing that they haven't stopped to consider that maybe with the latest changes things have changed some.

Or they're waiting to see what happens considering it's been less than a single GSL season since the last change.
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