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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4861
sjow's out.
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
November 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#4862
Finally that series was put out of its misery.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4863
wow sjow vs happy was really weird
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4864
Haha I wouldn't wanna be either Happy or Sjow, playing a pretty long TvT series and now they will play yet another BO3
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:36:53
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4865
NyanCat rocking on Day9 stream lol

EDIT:

oh its finished ; [
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4866
On November 26 2011 07:35 SafeAsCheese wrote:
sjow vs happy best of 9 GO!


somewhere Goody was watching and smiled
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:37:47
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4867
Is it just me but does´nt Sjow do some pretty obvious mistakes in these games? Like almost zero scouting, and the fact that he did not build one viking in a tvt that was 35 min long blows my mind. Happy was sitting with 2 vikings that had about 5 medivacs kills a piece and gave Happy vision advanteged for 25+ min.

How can you justify that in a matchup where sight is vital. Ahh well whatever, that was frustraiting to watch as swed but after that match I must say I dont think Sjow deserves to go on to the round of 16.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4868
My god non-korean TvT is just not fun to watch at all. At least the other mirror matchups end quickly.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 25 2011 22:36 GMT
#4869
Goddamnit the Colossus is such a stupid stupid unit. Its not imbalanced really, it just destroys the game when it is used. Seriously, most epic vP matches will not feature collosii in any serious capacity. Very little mirco, encourages so much turtling and not interesting to spectators in any capacity.

plz remove from game blizz thanks.
house31
Profile Joined July 2008
Finland13 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4870
On November 26 2011 07:35 SafeAsCheese wrote:
sjow vs happy best of 9 GO!


Rofl, gogo :D That was one of the most excruciating games ive watched in a while.
Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4871
Well, I'm sorry if my posts offend you but my point was that WhiteRa has actually done very much for Starcraft overall and he is probably the number 1 foreigner overall considering SC1 and SC2. Admittably I do not know everything about SC1 history and maybe Idra can compete but I don't know if he has equally long bacground. As far as I have understood WhiteRa has been kicking ass longer than Idra.


Stop posting. Your opinion is obviously subjective, the idea of a number one is always subjective and you obviously have no idea what you're writing about if your opinion is prefaced with a "probably" after getting smacked down by everyone regarding it. Just let it go and move on.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4872
On November 26 2011 07:35 SafeAsCheese wrote:
sjow vs happy best of 9 GO!

*take a gun*
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4873
On November 26 2011 07:36 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:35 SafeAsCheese wrote:
sjow vs happy best of 9 GO!


somewhere Goody was watching and smiled

"what an amateurs"
Stork[gm]
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4874
And that is why I transition to sky terran in late game TvT. Playing tank/tank the entire late game is just so boring.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4875
On November 26 2011 07:34 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:24 eourcs wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:16 Kilby wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:10 R!! wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:07 Kilby wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:00 mki wrote:
On November 26 2011 06:58 Kilby wrote:
WhiteRa is absolutely awesome. How many other pro player do you know who have been at the absolute top of the game at pro level for as long as he has.

He is probably the number 1 foreigner of all time. Easily.


It's pretty early to talk about #1 foreign players of all time. You'd have to include SC1 into this discussion because SC2 is too young to call players best of all time. And when you include SC1 then there are a bunch of names which come to mind...


Well, the good thing about talking about #1 foreigner of all time is that you can talk about them at any point in time. You don't need to wait for a new extension to come into play or more tourmanents to take place. You can talk about them at any point in time because they have such long history. And in my opinion the best would be WhiteRa. Just look at what he accomplished in BW and how he remained relevant in SC2 beta and then in SC2 after publish and even now. That guy is a legend.

I really don't wanna be condescending but how can you even begin to talk about the best players of all time with such a limited knowledge?Grrrr was the only foreign player to ever win an OSL and you don't even recognize him (or his akas), not that I think that you know how big of a deal that is.


Ok I admit that I don't know who was the #1 best foreigner in SC1 but when you talk about the best foreigner in Starcaft overall you have to take SC2 into account and in that sense I would imagine WhiteRa would rank pretty highly since he appanretly had some pretty big wins in SC1 as well.


You probably shouldn't these kinds of post if you don't know the history of starcraft. White-ra was a damn good foreigner, but as Idra has said, being a good foreigner is like doing well in retard school (not the exact quote, but captures the same meaning). In SC2, Whitera has done well, but he hasn't actually won much. If anything, IdrA has had way more success (in both SC1 and SC2).


Well, I'm sorry if my posts offend you but my point was that WhiteRa has actually done very much for Starcraft overall and he is probably the number 1 foreigner overall considering SC1 and SC2. Admittably I do not know everything about SC1 history and maybe Idra can compete but I don't know if he has equally long bacground. As far as I have understood WhiteRa has been kicking ass longer than Idra.

....

The thing is foreign results in SC1 did NOT MATTER AT ALL. Grrr at one point was considered - widely - to be the best player in the world, Korea and otherwise. White-Ra is great, but he has nothing that can match this....
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4876
Skrillex on Day9's stream. Music without anything to look at is more enjoying then that last TvT >_<.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4877
On November 26 2011 07:32 Al Bundy wrote:
Wow you guys are unbelievable. So many people here thinking they are master strategists and they have the game figured out


that's what usually comes to my mind when i open LR and balance threads
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
November 25 2011 22:37 GMT
#4878
On November 26 2011 07:34 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Man, I fucking love Jinro. He's one of the top 5 pros who I would buy a beer for!

Having beer is of course better than not having beer.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
November 25 2011 22:38 GMT
#4879
On November 26 2011 07:36 red4ce wrote:
My god non-korean TvT is just not fun to watch at all. At least the other mirror matchups end quickly.

We won't be having much of any terran games anymore, with only such a few terrans advancing.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
November 25 2011 22:38 GMT
#4880
If Sjow had won that game Tasteless and Apollo would have probably just died there on the stage.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
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