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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
mlspmatt
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:40:02
November 25 2011 22:38 GMT
#4881
On November 26 2011 07:35 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:34 mlspmatt wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:31 Kira__ wrote:
The word from korea is that protoss is now favored in tvp, but well.. who knows for sure

Yeah, the meta game changes fast and people are so used to Terran bashing that they haven't stopped to consider that maybe with the latest changes things have changed some.

Or they're waiting to see what happens considering it's been less than a single GSL season since the last change.

I didn't realize Starcraft was only played at GSL, thank you for enlightening me. there's been plenty of games both inside and outside Korea to see the MU has changed noticeably since the latest patch.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
November 25 2011 22:38 GMT
#4882
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#4883
On November 26 2011 07:37 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:34 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Man, I fucking love Jinro. He's one of the top 5 pros who I would buy a beer for!

Having beer is of course better than not having beer.


now I want beer, but I only have water and...maracuja-juice, dammit
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
November 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#4884
Is day 2 finished?
Stim Go Go GO!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#4885
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
November 25 2011 22:40 GMT
#4886
On November 26 2011 07:37 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:34 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Man, I fucking love Jinro. He's one of the top 5 pros who I would buy a beer for!

Having beer is of course better than not having beer.

Truer words have never been spoken.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 25 2011 22:40 GMT
#4887
On November 26 2011 07:37 Desert Fox wrote:
Show nested quote +
Well, I'm sorry if my posts offend you but my point was that WhiteRa has actually done very much for Starcraft overall and he is probably the number 1 foreigner overall considering SC1 and SC2. Admittably I do not know everything about SC1 history and maybe Idra can compete but I don't know if he has equally long bacground. As far as I have understood WhiteRa has been kicking ass longer than Idra.


Stop posting. Your opinion is obviously subjective, the idea of a number one is always subjective and you obviously have no idea what you're writing about if your opinion is prefaced with a "probably" after getting smacked down by everyone regarding it. Just let it go and move on.


Ok. Thank you for your non-subjective input. I will stop posting.
~Maverick~
Profile Joined July 2010
United States234 Posts
November 25 2011 22:40 GMT
#4888
On November 26 2011 07:39 Bro_Stone wrote:
Is day 2 finished?


No, there are still games that have to be played. They way it is looking right now, there is a pretty good possibility for a 3-way tie in Group H.
#roadto5kmmr
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 22:40 GMT
#4889
I'm disappointed by DH
Game quality is lower than most tournaments, so much sloppy play
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
November 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#4890
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.


True, most games I see of TvP for example is Terran trying to exploit a weakness while Protoss just defends defends defends until 200 supply and push with 15 WG...
Stim Go Go GO!
bara
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany150 Posts
November 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#4891
On November 26 2011 07:39 Bro_Stone wrote:
Is day 2 finished?

One round of matches will still be played
Kas vs Mana and Tod vs Happy will be streamed afaik
Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
November 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#4892
Jinro laying down the law in the thread
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
November 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#4893
Judging non-korean tvt by players like sjow and happy is really really :O O:
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1226 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4894
On November 26 2011 07:39 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:37 flodeskum wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:34 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:30 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:27 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:25 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:23 PG13 wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:21 mhe wrote:
Why no EMP from Kas?


Lol, do you seriously think that EMP matters vs Protoss late game?


The question is, are you serious?


EMP doesn't matter. Protoss lategame has 20 gateways, can reinforce in a second, 3/3 zealots are unkillable. If toss land one storm, or has colossus it is game over. We have seen it multiple times. But, I guess you can't convine protoss player about that. I'm sure Blizzard watches closely.


Lol, your statement isn't even about balance anymore. It's just so blatantly incorrect that I'm sure every single professional Terran player would also disagree with you.


Well If you follow a pro scene than you are aware of current opinions about TvP from T players. Not sure what are you talking about. Trying to deny the obvious?


Uh... having EMP is of course better than not having emp?
Man, I fucking love Jinro. He's one of the top 5 pros who I would buy a beer for!

Having beer is of course better than not having beer.


now I want beer, but I only have water and...maracuja-juice, dammit

Teehee, and I just discovered an unexpected awesome beer in the fridge.
Mutation complete.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4895
On November 26 2011 07:41 bara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:39 Bro_Stone wrote:
Is day 2 finished?

One round of matches will still be played
Kas vs Mana and Tod vs Happy will be streamed afaik

Kas vs Mana was already streamed, Kas vs Nightend and Mana vs Titan are missing until now.
mhe
Profile Joined September 2011
United States28 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4896
On November 26 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
I'm disappointed by DH
Game quality is lower than most tournaments, so much sloppy play

Uh its been less than a week after MLG Providence
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4897
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.

No way! Thought Terran was just e click e click t 1a! Seems like Terran being hard mode trAnslated from sc1 to sc2.
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4898
i actually enjoyed that TvT, i really wonder how you couldnt have, this involved some strategy which i so often miss in the other Matchups. This was no lame cheese or an all ending all-in. it was a solid game with a lot of strategic movement and decisions. i really dont know why most people did not enjoy that game? :o
rawr
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4899
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.

Jinro's speaking true words.

My thought is: it seams like with Terran, that Blizz is nerfing terran not because of the race, but because of its (good) players.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#4900
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.


^ See this guys, that's the truth right there. Thankyou Jinro, I shall be quoting this glorious statement for years to come.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
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