On October 17 2011 07:22 Apophenic wrote: i really hate protosses winning by blink stalkers.
People focus way to much on the final event;
IdrA lost that WAY before the only blink stalker composition; his first few trades with MC were absolutely TERRIBLE; he threw away so many units unnecessarily and then delayed his infestor tech to long. Why shouldn't blink stalkers win vs roaches at the end of the game..
Exactly. I am not sure why MC is getting the hate this game. Granted he does a lot of 2 base timings but this game he chose getting a 3rd base over doing a push. Idra should have got some infestors earlier and not done those attacks you mentioned. However I will say that MLG have got to get their timings right next time. Idra just had a very stressful 3 game series against bomber and facing MC withing 5 mins has got to be tough.
PvP is the least entertaining matchup, so as much as I want to root for Huk I want STC to make it to the finals. Absolutely cannot stand watching stalker wars.
I'm sad to see Idra go, he played well this tournament, but his ZvP does not have close to the polish that his ZvT. He's mostly shed the mistakes that Zergs were making when they were all struggling against Protoss, but he still makes some pretty bad ones, like engaging blink stalkers head on, when he just doesn't need to.
On October 17 2011 07:23 Dualx wrote: why are protoss allowed to all-in and if it fails just expo out of it?
David Kim lost to a zerg once in ZvP after the zerg held his all-in...
Seriously what the fuck, why do people like you ignore the whole rest of the game and just focus on 1 tiny aspect, do you post on the Bnet forums asking how to beat Terran who max off 1 base BC?
On October 17 2011 07:22 soupchicken wrote: Idra what the hell. That was some ridiculously bad ZvP
Dear internet hater.
Have you tried playing a bo7 followed by a bo3 and then another bo3 and then another Bo3 against top koreans without any real break? Give the guy a break, he fucking crushed the earlier opponents and it was obvious that fatigue was a big factor
Lol how obvious was it to you? SO obvious? Like 100% fatigue was a factor, without a doubt?
He may be an internet hater but you're an internet fanboy :p
On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote: I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series.
Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right?
you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire?
On October 17 2011 07:24 NuclearJudas wrote: Great run by Idra! Kinda sad to see him lose now, after being so sad to see Bomber bomb out. ; _ ; MC and TheSTC will have to fight for the Code S spot. Excitingest event ever!
Excitingest! The most exciting grammar mistake ever
On October 17 2011 07:21 GuiltyJerk wrote: Why the fuck doesn't he make a God damn infestor? I mean really, I love Idra, I can't imagine the justification for not doing that.
Feel this way too :\ fungal to stop blink + roll in banes...
Ahh well. He had an awesome run through how many koreans? GG wp man.
Idra's slow and can't do proper engagement with Infestors. He really needs to practice micro. All I see from him is roach stutter step.
Idra just lost his head and threw away the game, over and over. He ALWAYS had the tech to deal with MC's stuff but never used it right... He had pathogen glands and instead of making infestors, he made a bunch of banelings and tried to A+move into the stalkers multiple times.
On October 17 2011 07:22 soupchicken wrote: Idra what the hell. That was some ridiculously bad ZvP
Dear internet hater.
Have you tried playing a bo7 followed by a bo3 and then another bo3 and then another Bo3 against top koreans without any real break? Give the guy a break, he fucking crushed the earlier opponents and it was obvious that fatigue was a big factor
Hmm... sorry, but making excuses for him isn't gonna work for me. MC did play more sets than Idra today, if you bother to do your homework.
On October 17 2011 07:21 GuiltyJerk wrote: Why the fuck doesn't he make a God damn infestor? I mean really, I love Idra, I can't imagine the justification for not doing that.
Feel this way too :\ fungal to stop blink + roll in banes...
Ahh well. He had an awesome run through how many koreans? GG wp man.
Idra's slow and can't do proper engagement with Infestors. He really needs to practice micro. All I see from him is roach stutter step.
Not sure if troll or just completely brain damaged.
On October 17 2011 07:24 Audigy wrote: you guys forget idra has been playing like 6 hours straight. mlg should have let him take a break.
Look at the bracket, Idra played 3 series vs boxer, hongun, bomber. But MC played 4 series before this match, winning Rain, Ret, Puma, Marineking. Mc has much tougher road for me.
Go MC<3, kratoss back to Code S please.
And idra once said that progamers cant making excuses on tired, since they play about 14 hours a day for tournament anyway. 6 hours is nothing...
On October 17 2011 07:22 Obstikal wrote: I don't fucking understand what took idra so long to get infestors.. holy shit
Yeah, he was going broodlords vs mass blink stalker before the infestors... GOMTV just facepalmed because so many people would have purchased a ticket if IdrA had made Code S.
Now they are stuck with GomTvT, but if MC is back in Code S I think more ppl will watch it, at least until he gets knocked out again or terran nerfed so more protoss and zerg players can get in.
On October 17 2011 07:22 teamsolid wrote: There's just no way Idra could've done anything against all those blink stalkers when MC was on 4-base, and Idra was still staying on tier 2 tech.
IdrA had Hive already with Adrenal Glands on the way, his Greater Spire was finishing up and his +3 was almost done.
Yea he teched fine. Losing that hatch early on really hurt him.
It was a 2-base all-in that MC transitioned into a macro game. Not scouting the 2-base all-in was the reason IdrA lost. Not necessarily what came after.
We he teched but to the wrong tech. In face of that sea of bstalkers, pure well upgraded lings and infestors are way better, cheaper, easy to reproduce than broodlords imo. Well, unless he manage to morph like 10 blords at once so he get an insta-critical mass. But that's hard to do without dying.
EPT
