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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 13 2011 20:45 GMT
#1581
On October 14 2011 05:45 Beardedclam wrote:
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On October 14 2011 05:43 Logros wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:42 Beardedclam wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:41 Logros wrote:
CreatorPrime build!


Nah, it does have 2 forges though.

Twilight council is a tad later but it's the same idea. 3 gate robo, 2 forge, 1/1 and blink then 2/2 and charge.


Yea, it seems to be very similar now. I was just picky because I copied it up to like 100+ supply from the games Genius used it in.

Haha yeah I just looked over the games from Creator today as well so I noticed the similarities .
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
October 13 2011 20:46 GMT
#1582
On October 14 2011 05:39 doko100 wrote:
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On October 14 2011 05:37 Flonomenalz wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...

Who gets excited over fungals? I'm Zerg and even I don't most of the time unless they're REALLY strategic fungals. EMPs just never seem to be strategic at all, just press and go. Insane range, and AOE. Storm is impressive because it's not instant damage, and it doesn't root.



But it's still exactly the same skillset that is required to cast them.And fungal is by far the easiest. There is nothing strategic about fungaling units. you hit them once and then just repeatedly fungal them until they die, derp.


I still think it requires more skill than EMPs. First of all, a lot of the time fungals need to be used against air units, as opposed to EMPs which are mostly used against ground. That means more chance to fuck it up.

Also let's say you land a good fungal on some viking, you can't just wait to recast it again. Pro players find the time to squeeze in injects, or other micro in between the fungals, which requires more skill than just carpet bombing a protoss army with EMPs.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 13 2011 20:47 GMT
#1583
On October 14 2011 05:43 iamke55 wrote:
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On October 14 2011 05:42 QNdie wrote:
I think MaNa has a good shot at winning this. He has godly PvT and DRG is clearly preety bad at ZvP as we saw in the games vs. Gatored.

DRG has no trouble brushing aside Naniwa and Huk who are both better than Mana at PvZ...

What makes you think that? Nani is pretty bad vs Zerg and Huk, meh, sometimes good, sometimes bad.

Mana is really good vs Zerg now, winning against guys like Stephano or Dimaga lately.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 13 2011 20:47 GMT
#1584
On October 14 2011 05:46 Djeez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:39 doko100 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:37 Flonomenalz wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...

Who gets excited over fungals? I'm Zerg and even I don't most of the time unless they're REALLY strategic fungals. EMPs just never seem to be strategic at all, just press and go. Insane range, and AOE. Storm is impressive because it's not instant damage, and it doesn't root.



But it's still exactly the same skillset that is required to cast them.And fungal is by far the easiest. There is nothing strategic about fungaling units. you hit them once and then just repeatedly fungal them until they die, derp.


I still think it requires more skill than EMPs. First of all, a lot of the time fungals need to be used against air units, as opposed to EMPs which are mostly used against ground. That means more chance to fuck it up.

Also let's say you land a good fungal on some viking, you can't just wait to recast it again. Pro players find the time to squeeze in injects, or other micro in between the fungals, which requires more skill than just carpet bombing a protoss army with EMPs.


Truth. You also gotta know how long to wait between fungals to properly kill different units.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#1585
Strelok massing ghosts without even scouting P's tech choice. -_-
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
October 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#1586
Again, "niiiice EMPs"... good one guys :D
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#1587
Gatored totally playing the metagame.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#1588
Gatored has 3-3 now. He seems to be doing pretty well.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2093 Posts
October 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#1589
why was Strelok so marauder-heavy there?
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#1590
Really solid casting, Mr. Bitter and Rotterdam really make a good pair.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
October 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#1591
On October 14 2011 05:48 Telcontar wrote:
Strelok massing ghosts without even scouting P's tech choice. -_-


and nothing's been going on till that point in the game, today's games are pretty lackluster all around
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#1592
Rotterdam's accent got so much better. I used to cringe everytime I heard him but now it's alright.
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1593
Those 2 immortals are raping that pure marauder.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1594
Strelok, kiting is good
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1595
Those units were on strike for better benefits.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1596
This early upgrade style is really paying off now.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1597
--- Nuked ---
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1598
aaah gatored use your colossus and immortal
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1599
Hate Strelok's TvP, can't even watch it. I always get confused why he masses marauders and medivacs only >
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#1600
wtf forgot 1 colossus and 1 immortal?
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