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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
October 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#1541
Strelok really favours that proxy Factory opening.

Anyone watching his NASL games and some of the Euro cups cast by imbalanced.tv would so easily blind counter that. I thought Gatored was going to do it with blocking the landing, but then he moved away his Stalker just as it was starting to float in.

I guess in an incredibly roundabout way, my picks for the top two in the group might advance. Just not in the fashion I had expected, very much far from it.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:37:28
October 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#1542
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...



Well, storms can be dodged, so the attacker needs to place them well to maximise their effectiveness. Fungals on the other hand are the worst - you drop the first and then just rinse and repeat.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
October 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#1543
lol rotterdam what are you talking about
I have honestly never seen that here haha
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
October 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#1544
On October 14 2011 05:33 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:12 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:10 icarly wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:10 PDizzle wrote:
amazing play by gatored, damn!


Puma 1/1/1 - noob all in cheeser.

Gatored all in - Amazing strategy

Because transitioning into a 3rd and 4th base is an all-in.

It was all-in.

It's like 6 pooling in ZvZ... killing a bunch of drones and equalizing the game (or getting ahead). Does 6 pool sudden stop being an all-in because it did damage?

Why was gatored build all in? Because he trapped his entire army (ie, he gets crushed or does a ton of damage). He cut probes to continue aggression. If DRG was prepared for it he could have destroyed gatored.

Who cares if it was all-in or not? It was a good game won by a nice strategy. People should stop whining about all-ins all the time.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
October 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#1545
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...

Who gets excited over fungals? I'm Zerg and even I don't most of the time unless they're REALLY strategic fungals. EMPs just never seem to be strategic at all, just press and go. Insane range, and AOE. Storm is impressive because it's not instant damage, and it doesn't root.
I love crazymoving
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#1546
On October 14 2011 05:35 hrvoje07 wrote:
if mana is on his top form, and avoids pvp against elfi he has a very good chance in this tournament

Yea I agree. His PvZ is almost definitely strong enough to take down DRG. The big question is whether his PvT is strong enough for Top. That's a tough match to call.
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
October 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#1547
On October 14 2011 05:35 usethis2 wrote:
Rofl I could see DRG being knocked down out of group stage. His play against Strelok was extremely shaky, then he simply collapsed against gatored.

ZvZ might be the best matchup to let his Korean training shine.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1548
On October 14 2011 05:36 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...



Well, storms can be dodged, so the attacker needs to place them well to maximise their effectiveness. Fungals on the other hand are the worst - you drop the first and then just rinse and repeat.

Hey man, if that's mad skillz to Dustin Browder, who are we to argue?

Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
bentnormal
Profile Joined December 2009
112 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1549
go go carpet terran!
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1550
On October 14 2011 05:37 Jakkerr wrote:
lol rotterdam what are you talking about
I have honestly never seen that here haha

I didn´t either.. Maybe it´s a city related thing.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1551
On October 14 2011 05:35 Grettin wrote:
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On October 14 2011 05:34 HappyChris wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 Grettin wrote:
Somehow i have a feeling that TOP will take this tournament fairly easy, unless DRG manages to get in the Finals/against him.


Maybe but it really comes down to MaNa.


Oh yeah, Mana is playing.. Well TOP still has pretty solid TvP.


Yea, true Top is a great terran but MaNa specialise in PvT so I think its gonna be close but lets see I dont think DRG can take this tournament with all these protoss and his abit shaky ZvP
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1552
Funny how no one mentions Fruitdealer in all the talk... wonder how he'll do! :D
lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1553
The stream isn't even working for me, here in Holland o,O
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1554
On October 14 2011 05:35 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain

Haven't you learned by now? EMPs, Storms, Fungals are always niiiiicccceeeee!


Forcefields too! Even if they look like a random collection of pseudo-picasso sentry art.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1555
On October 14 2011 05:37 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:33 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:12 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:10 icarly wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:10 PDizzle wrote:
amazing play by gatored, damn!


Puma 1/1/1 - noob all in cheeser.

Gatored all in - Amazing strategy

Because transitioning into a 3rd and 4th base is an all-in.

It was all-in.

It's like 6 pooling in ZvZ... killing a bunch of drones and equalizing the game (or getting ahead). Does 6 pool sudden stop being an all-in because it did damage?

Why was gatored build all in? Because he trapped his entire army (ie, he gets crushed or does a ton of damage). He cut probes to continue aggression. If DRG was prepared for it he could have destroyed gatored.

Who cares if it was all-in or not? It was a good game won by a nice strategy. People should stop whining about all-ins all the time.

I wasn't bitching about it. I think its a great build too. I'm just responding to the guy saying it wasn't all-in.

People should stop whining about people whining about all-ins all the time.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
October 13 2011 20:38 GMT
#1556
Even if Gatored loses this, he can always say "Strelok too good, hope I get a code s Korean next".
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#1557
I didn't even knew this event was today and running TT
I saw there was some shocking results@liquipedia, could a kind someone recap me the day ? :p
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:40:18
October 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#1558
On October 14 2011 05:32 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:28 rapture wrote:
oh nice, everybody in group a and b ist currently 1-1 pretty tense


PvT is Sangho's best matchup, so he should beat Sjow

dKiller is better than Attero imo

Strelok seems to have no problems with Gatored

DRG should be able to handle Strifecro despite his weak play today


i agree with you on every point, but after todays results we can expect pretty much everything. let's just hope for some close matches ^^
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
October 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#1559
On October 14 2011 05:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Funny how no one mentions Fruitdealer in all the talk... wonder how he'll do! :D

Lol, for a little bit I forgot he was in this tournament.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
October 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#1560
On October 14 2011 05:37 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:35 doko100 wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:34 Odoakar wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:33 MCMXVI wrote:
"niiiice EMPs"... broken record...


Yeah, I honestly don't know what's nice about that, they take no skill. It's just pwef! instadrain


could say the same about fungals and storms but people get excited over good storms or fungals all the time...

Who gets excited over fungals? I'm Zerg and even I don't most of the time unless they're REALLY strategic fungals. EMPs just never seem to be strategic at all, just press and go. Insane range, and AOE. Storm is impressive because it's not instant damage, and it doesn't root.



But it's still exactly the same skillset that is required to cast them.And fungal is by far the easiest. There is nothing strategic about fungaling units. you hit them once and then just repeatedly fungal them until they die, derp.
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