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On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote: It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless. I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.
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On October 10 2011 18:27 MrCon wrote: 2 more canons and Curious is dead with no economy. WHY FFS.
Yeah he should have done that when he saw all those zerglings so far up the map with his zealots.
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On October 10 2011 18:24 MrCon wrote:Oz is not Sangho, when he nexus first he knows how to defend it  LMAO but seriously, he screwed it really hard... sending 2 zealots to scout, really bad idea.
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On October 10 2011 18:27 Pajegetc wrote: Yay more Zerg cheese in a matchup they completely dominated and on Zerg favored maps. please, just stop
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not seeing those initial roaches with the probe was pretty big. hopefully this doesnt go the same way as the killer (i think?) games
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On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote: It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless. I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.
TDA is pretty toss favored, but belshir is pretty zerg favored. hmm, gonna be an uphill battle for oz.
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well you can't scout that at all, so i guess you just have to put up 3 cannons on that map
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On October 10 2011 18:27 Shellshock1122 wrote: I like how Curious sent his Overlord in right before the ling got there so the first cannon shots were absorbed by the overlord
yes i was wondering why no one posted about this, guess everyone just busy whining about zerg cheese lol
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On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote: first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy It's most likely that Oz felt that crossfire pvz would be far too hard and he would need to take a risk early on to be able to win.
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On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote: first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy How would it make a difference? His nexus first worked. He lost because he didn't scout the roach rush. It wouldn't matter whether he forge first or nexus first, he had to scout the incoming roach or just be extremely defensive and put cannons down beforehand.
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On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote: It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless. I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.
He needed to take 1 out of the first 3 maps for sure, TDA is probably gonna be his best bet unless he does some kind of proxy or cannon rush on Bel'Shir
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I never blame Zergs for doing that attack. Protoss players really need to stop being so stupid with how little they value their early game defense, it is so frustrating to watch loses like this.
Zerg IS going to try to punish your FF, either through a fast 3rd or a rush, just make the extra cannon or two and hey you're even safe from counter-attacks later. Crossfire especially, make extra cannons early on - counter-attack WILL happen later in the game.
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On October 10 2011 18:28 ilbh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:24 MrCon wrote:Oz is not Sangho, when he nexus first he knows how to defend it  LMAO but seriously, he screwed it really hard... sending 2 zealots to scout, really bad idea.
you are meant to send 2~3 zealots to scout though, almost every high level toss does it against zergs nowadays. the bad idea was the FFE itself, terrible opening build on crossfire, never ever works.
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oz needs to take a game soon, the map line up favours him towards the end
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On October 10 2011 18:28 MrCon wrote: I'm so angry at Oz >< Me too! Everyone I've rooted for in tournaments today has lost If you lose Oz at least go down fighting
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On October 10 2011 18:28 firehand101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:27 Pajegetc wrote: Yay more Zerg cheese in a matchup they completely dominated and on Zerg favored maps. please, just stop
Zerg always defending there cheese. It's not like Zerg can go 3 bases(super fucking greedy) and defend any kind of all in or pressure the protoss throw at them.
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On October 10 2011 18:29 flodeskum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote: first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy It's most likely that Oz felt that crossfire pvz would be far too hard and he would need to take a risk early on to be able to win. I think he just assumed a hatchery first build was gonna come and knew he would be ok if zerg hatched first
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Looks like Oz is going for another fast expo. Hopefully Curious doesn't wreck him again with another timing push.
On October 10 2011 18:28 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote: It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless. I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game. TDA is pretty toss favored, but belshir is pretty zerg favored. hmm, gonna be an uphill battle for oz. TDA can be tough either way for both races. It's a very friendly map for Zerg because of its size and the number of expansions, but yeah, dropping the Crossfire game like that and having Bel'Shir next is tough for Oz.
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