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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 10 2011 09:27 GMT
#201
On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote:
It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless.

I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.
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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#202
On October 10 2011 18:27 MrCon wrote:
2 more canons and Curious is dead with no economy. WHY FFS.


Yeah he should have done that when he saw all those zerglings so far up the map with his zealots.
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ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#203
On October 10 2011 18:24 MrCon wrote:
Oz is not Sangho, when he nexus first he knows how to defend it

LMAO
but seriously, he screwed it really hard... sending 2 zealots to scout, really bad idea.
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#204
On October 10 2011 18:27 Pajegetc wrote:
Yay more Zerg cheese in a matchup they completely dominated and on Zerg favored maps.

please, just stop
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DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#205
not seeing those initial roaches with the probe was pretty big. hopefully this doesnt go the same way as the killer (i think?) games
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#206
On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote:
It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless.

I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.


TDA is pretty toss favored, but belshir is pretty zerg favored. hmm, gonna be an uphill battle for oz.
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Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#207
well you can't scout that at all, so i guess you just have to put up 3 cannons on that map
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#208
I'm so angry at Oz ><
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#209
On October 10 2011 18:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I like how Curious sent his Overlord in right before the ling got there so the first cannon shots were absorbed by the overlord


yes i was wondering why no one posted about this, guess everyone just busy whining about zerg cheese lol
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 10 2011 09:28 GMT
#210
was that go.go ?!
FTD
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#211
On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote:
first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy

It's most likely that Oz felt that crossfire pvz would be far too hard and he would need to take a risk early on to be able to win.
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noBode
Profile Joined November 2010
Thailand439 Posts
October 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#212
On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote:
first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy

How would it make a difference? His nexus first worked. He lost because he didn't scout the roach rush. It wouldn't matter whether he forge first or nexus first, he had to scout the incoming roach or just be extremely defensive and put cannons down beforehand.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#213
On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote:
It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless.

I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.


He needed to take 1 out of the first 3 maps for sure, TDA is probably gonna be his best bet unless he does some kind of proxy or cannon rush on Bel'Shir
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#214
I never blame Zergs for doing that attack. Protoss players really need to stop being so stupid with how little they value their early game defense, it is so frustrating to watch loses like this.

Zerg IS going to try to punish your FF, either through a fast 3rd or a rush, just make the extra cannon or two and hey you're even safe from counter-attacks later. Crossfire especially, make extra cannons early on - counter-attack WILL happen later in the game.
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Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 09:30:52
October 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#215
On October 10 2011 18:28 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:24 MrCon wrote:
Oz is not Sangho, when he nexus first he knows how to defend it

LMAO
but seriously, he screwed it really hard... sending 2 zealots to scout, really bad idea.


you are meant to send 2~3 zealots to scout though, almost every high level toss does it against zergs nowadays. the bad idea was the FFE itself, terrible opening build on crossfire, never ever works.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
October 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#216
oz needs to take a game soon, the map line up favours him towards the end
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#217
On October 10 2011 18:28 MrCon wrote:
I'm so angry at Oz ><

Me too! Everyone I've rooted for in tournaments today has lost If you lose Oz at least go down fighting
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#218
On October 10 2011 18:28 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:27 Pajegetc wrote:
Yay more Zerg cheese in a matchup they completely dominated and on Zerg favored maps.

please, just stop


Zerg always defending there cheese. It's not like Zerg can go 3 bases(super fucking greedy) and defend any kind of all in or pressure the protoss throw at them.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#219
On October 10 2011 18:29 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:27 firehand101 wrote:
first against DRG now against curious, why do protosses think its a good idea for a fast expand. not a forge first, but nexus first, on crossfire? far out that is crazy

It's most likely that Oz felt that crossfire pvz would be far too hard and he would need to take a risk early on to be able to win.

I think he just assumed a hatchery first build was gonna come and knew he would be ok if zerg hatched first
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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#220
Looks like Oz is going for another fast expo. Hopefully Curious doesn't wreck him again with another timing push.
On October 10 2011 18:28 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 18:27 Gary Oak wrote:
On October 10 2011 18:26 NotSorry wrote:
It's okay, just a warm up game. Expected to drop this map regardless.

I'm not very confident considering Bel'Shir and TDA are next. I don't have much faith in Oz if he can't pull out a miracle and take the Bel'Shir game.


TDA is pretty toss favored, but belshir is pretty zerg favored. hmm, gonna be an uphill battle for oz.

TDA can be tough either way for both races. It's a very friendly map for Zerg because of its size and the number of expansions, but yeah, dropping the Crossfire game like that and having Bel'Shir next is tough for Oz.
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