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harobi
Germany56 Posts
You think MMA, theSTC and Puma are top 3 Terran? What about Bomber, how about MVP? Oh no, someone doesn't like someone I like, what a hater.[/QUOTE] u forgot mkp, polt, sc, gumiho, alive, ryung, top, supernova, clide, nada, keen, asd, ganzi, happy as well. i dont think puma is above everyone else that i mentioned. | ||
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RJGooner
United States2076 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 c0ldfusion wrote: Idra is the last EG left in the tourney I hope he's not on too much tilt after that last game. Probably too tired to tilt at this point. Wonder what he was thinking sleeping an hour before the match? | ||
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euroboy
Sweden536 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:46 windsupernova wrote: When a Zerg all ins its a great play. Always. I don´t know why so many people complain about cheese and all ins, they have always existed, will always exist and it was no different in BW. Some people seem to get PTSD when they get attacked early lol You comparing 2 saturated bases timing attack with a 11/11 bunker rush? | ||
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kabar
United States616 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
You're playing against someone that is notably one of the strongest late game zergs in the world... why wouldn't you do a cheesy build that either wins you the game, or at worst breaks you even with your opponent? It's retarded to hate on TheStC. Just because he did that doesn't mean he is a trash player that can't play in the lategame (quite the opposite, he is a beast in the late game and very well balanced in all 3 MUs). You do what it takes to win. As long as Blizzard doesn't think of a proper way to prevent 2 rax cheese, Terrans will use it... and rightfully so. | ||
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SpecFire
United States1681 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 darkscream wrote: its not about idra, its about that 2rax build it hurts so bad just to watch it, nobody wants to see games like that NR20 IPL! Even now you might be hurting eSports. | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
thats one of the biggest maps in the game. Idra shouldv went on the xel naga tower when he was scouting. also, stc got cross positions that means hes going to get scouted second on a huge map, which is a big deal. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Lucky did the exact same thing vs. Ret: aggressive cheese/pressure opening first game, greedy macro opening second game. It's elementary meta-gaming. | ||
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vincom2
Singapore1775 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 darkscream wrote: its not about idra, its about that 2rax build it hurts so bad just to watch it, nobody wants to see games like that That and it is so easy to pull it off and much harder for Zerg to hold off in relation to how easy it is for Terran to do. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 KillerSOS wrote: While I hate the cheese I have to agree with this statement. except puma isn't the most all-inish terran out there. Especially vs Zerg. He likes late game vZ. Idra didn't scout the 2 rax until the bunker was being placed down. Only hope he had is to not allow the bunkers at the choke, but when they went down, it was over | ||
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minhbq299
United Kingdom566 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 Snusdosa wrote: Why does people keep cheering when a player they like cheese like this? Aren't we watching this stream because we wanna see epic StarCraft games? Can you honestly say seeing a terran cheese out a zerg with two proxied 11/11 rax is exciting? No, in fact its even more disrespectful to the community to cheese than bming or quitting without gg. Zerg can easily win 2 rax with pool first then hatch, because they can pull far more eco when terran invest in 11/11 rax | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
STC scouts again with an scv and drops 2 more rax. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:45 garett wrote: nope, idra's roach rush was a response to thorzains greedy play. here stc cheesed blindly. Though technically its blind, He's playing vs IdrA on TD It's 95% chance of a hatch first build. He did he research on his opponent and did a build he knew could get him a quick win. I don't understand the hate on him for it? | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:48 Megabuster123 wrote: Because we don't have mules. We have to expand fast or else we're behind economically and from a production stand point. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. So you are telling me that instead of hatch first you can't build a few lings, stop the scv and then use your queen to make like 7 drones at once? You don't even have the 1st base saturated when you make your second, don't understand the mindset | ||
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PieLieDie
Sweden172 Posts
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
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Nivity
Sweden371 Posts
The same reason terrans always bunker pressure losira because he always lose his hatch. And its the reason most people stopped trying to rush nestea because he destroys it. Sorry but Idra can't handle early pressure well, and he goes into rage/stress mode whenever it happens. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On October 10 2011 03:47 minhbq299 wrote: That is why he is idra, we have seen some incredible come back from MMA this tournament in the map between MMA and White RA, and Kiwikaki vs Stephano on game 2. I have seen some good zerg sacked their hatch and still win, 300 minerals is not that really huge, and terran also has to cut a lot of scv to do that 11/11 rax, so zerg is not that far behind when they sacked the natural, they can double expand later. STC was following up by locking IdrA in his main. It's one thing if he salvaged his bunkers and went home. But he could sit outside of IdrA's main w/ those bunkers and make raid into his main w/ the marines and until he has banelings (which wouldn't be soon), he'd be stuck there. | ||
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