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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
harobi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 18:49:16
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5941


You think MMA, theSTC and Puma are top 3 Terran? What about Bomber, how about MVP?

Oh no, someone doesn't like someone I like, what a hater.[/QUOTE]

u forgot mkp, polt, sc, gumiho, alive, ryung, top, supernova, clide, nada, keen, asd, ganzi, happy as well. i dont think puma is above everyone else that i mentioned.
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2093 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5942
On October 10 2011 03:47 c0ldfusion wrote:
Idra is the last EG left in the tourney

I hope he's not on too much tilt after that last game.


Probably too tired to tilt at this point. Wonder what he was thinking sleeping an hour before the match?
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euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5943
On October 10 2011 03:46 windsupernova wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:44 JohnnyBanana wrote:
You guys do know that Idra did a roach/speedling all in in game 1 vs Thorzain?


When a Zerg all ins its a great play. Always. I don´t know why so many people complain about cheese and all ins, they have always existed, will always exist and it was no different in BW. Some people seem to get PTSD when they get attacked early lol


You comparing 2 saturated bases timing attack with a 11/11 bunker rush?
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5944
cameraman goin nuts zooming in on idra's face.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5945
Don't hate on TheStC. Hate on Blizzard. It's their fault shit like this still works.

You're playing against someone that is notably one of the strongest late game zergs in the world... why wouldn't you do a cheesy build that either wins you the game, or at worst breaks you even with your opponent?

It's retarded to hate on TheStC. Just because he did that doesn't mean he is a trash player that can't play in the lategame (quite the opposite, he is a beast in the late game and very well balanced in all 3 MUs). You do what it takes to win. As long as Blizzard doesn't think of a proper way to prevent 2 rax cheese, Terrans will use it... and rightfully so.
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5946
Are there any VODs for MMA / Puma match? Will VODs be released?
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#5947
On October 10 2011 03:47 darkscream wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:46 DamageControL wrote:
I like idra but he lost...why are the FANBOYS so defensive?


its not about idra, its about that 2rax build


it hurts so bad just to watch it, nobody wants to see games like that


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Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5948
On October 10 2011 03:45 zeru wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:45 Clog wrote:
On October 10 2011 03:43 JJH777 wrote:
That build is pretty much auto-win vs hatch first it's pretty ridiculous.


Yep... pretty frustrating.

Then dont hatch first on that map? lol.

thats one of the biggest maps in the game. Idra shouldv went on the xel naga tower when he was scouting. also, stc got cross positions that means hes going to get scouted second on a huge map, which is a big deal.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 18:49:50
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5949
This sort of meta-game is so standard among Korean pros that foreigners should wise up to it already.

Lucky did the exact same thing vs. Ret: aggressive cheese/pressure opening first game, greedy macro opening second game. It's elementary meta-gaming.
vincom2
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1775 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5950
Lots of minerals... what is the grack doing?
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5951
On October 10 2011 03:47 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 03:46 DamageControL wrote:
I like idra but he lost...why are the FANBOYS so defensive?


its not about idra, its about that 2rax build


it hurts so bad just to watch it, nobody wants to see games like that


That and it is so easy to pull it off and much harder for Zerg to hold off in relation to how easy it is for Terran to do.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5952
On October 10 2011 03:47 KillerSOS wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:46 Derez wrote:
So you're on a team with PuMa, probably the most all-inish terran out there. How can you not put him in a game with you, and have him do this to you for x hours until you can reliably hold it?

I don't see how a pro gamer can be this terrible at holding this. It's not easy to hold, but this attempt was truly pathetic.


While I hate the cheese I have to agree with this statement.

except puma isn't the most all-inish terran out there. Especially vs Zerg. He likes late game vZ.

Idra didn't scout the 2 rax until the bunker was being placed down. Only hope he had is to not allow the bunkers at the choke, but when they went down, it was over
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minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5953
On October 10 2011 03:47 Snusdosa wrote:
Why does people keep cheering when a player they like cheese like this? Aren't we watching this stream because we wanna see epic StarCraft games? Can you honestly say seeing a terran cheese out a zerg with two proxied 11/11 rax is exciting? No, in fact its even more disrespectful to the community to cheese than bming or quitting without gg.


Zerg can easily win 2 rax with pool first then hatch, because they can pull far more eco when terran invest in 11/11 rax
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5954
Idra pokes with his initial 2 lings. He grabs his first two gases.

STC scouts again with an scv and drops 2 more rax.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5955
On October 10 2011 03:45 garett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 03:44 WhurreOdu wrote:
On October 10 2011 03:43 radiantshadow92 wrote:
everyone who is calling him a dirty cheeser should call idra the same thing for all inning tzain


qft

nope, idra's roach rush was a response to thorzains greedy play. here stc cheesed blindly.

Though technically its blind, He's playing vs IdrA on TD It's 95% chance of a hatch first build. He did he research on his opponent and did a build he knew could get him a quick win. I don't understand the hate on him for it?
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 18:50:03
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5956
On October 10 2011 03:48 Megabuster123 wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:46 Scrandom wrote:
Can someone decent explain to me something I've never understood about Zerg players? Why do Zerg players feel like they should be able to expand so fast without making any attacking units and then cry when they get punished? Why don't Zerg players try making attacking units, it makes no sense to me..

Because we don't have mules. We have to expand fast or else we're behind economically and from a production stand point. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.


So you are telling me that instead of hatch first you can't build a few lings, stop the scv and then use your queen to make like 7 drones at once? You don't even have the 1st base saturated when you make your second, don't understand the mindset
PieLieDie
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden172 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5957
so bad play.. getting fully scouted by an scv with 2 queens out,.,
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5958
seeing double gas is pretty big though
I have no quote!
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5959
It's well know that Idra sucks at holding rushes, people use that against him.
The same reason terrans always bunker pressure losira because he always lose his hatch.

And its the reason most people stopped trying to rush nestea because he destroys it.

Sorry but Idra can't handle early pressure well, and he goes into rage/stress mode whenever it happens.

I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#5960
On October 10 2011 03:47 minhbq299 wrote:
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On October 10 2011 03:43 StoLiVe wrote:
On October 10 2011 03:42 scarper65 wrote:
I don't understand why zergs immediately leave. I've seen zergs like DRG just sac the hatchery, and then clean up the bunkers while taking a very fast third base.

He lost too many drone with that

That is why he is idra, we have seen some incredible come back from MMA this tournament in the map between MMA and White RA, and Kiwikaki vs Stephano on game 2. I have seen some good zerg sacked their hatch and still win, 300 minerals is not that really huge, and terran also has to cut a lot of scv to do that 11/11 rax, so zerg is not that far behind when they sacked the natural, they can double expand later.


STC was following up by locking IdrA in his main. It's one thing if he salvaged his bunkers and went home. But he could sit outside of IdrA's main w/ those bunkers and make raid into his main w/ the marines and until he has banelings (which wouldn't be soon), he'd be stuck there.
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