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Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
October 03 2011 06:39 GMT
#1261
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


is it?? whats different?
♥
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 03 2011 06:39 GMT
#1262
On October 03 2011 15:35 tuho12345 wrote:
2 major mistakes cost Dimaga 2 games. Threw 7 infestors in game 2 and now 7 BLs in game 4. Wow I can't believe that these guys are playing this badly


You would be amazed at what can happen to your nerves in situations such as these...

Cut the players a little slack.
xHerodotusx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
October 03 2011 06:39 GMT
#1263
gateway expand on terminus?
ZerO - Seal - Life - Taeja - Parting - Squirtle
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1264
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1265
On October 03 2011 15:38 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


I don't think most tournaments have adopted GSL's new version yet.

I'm pretty sure I saw the current version of Terminus used earlier today. This is a really huge break for Dimaga, since this version is horribly imbalanced against Protoss in PvZ.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1266
On October 03 2011 15:38 ypslala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:36 Jehct wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:30 ypslala wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:26 Jehct wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:20 ypslala wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:17 tuho12345 wrote:
If hasu doesn't change his style. Well not much chance for him to win in a straight up macro game against Dimaga tbh

the thing is,Hasu knows Dimaga very well and had played tons of games against him. what could he have done better? stargate fails before it starts. dimaga makes spores and additional queens and toss is miles behind. a "quick" 3rd at 10 minute mark was his only chance imho.

Like Bitters and Rotti are saying, roach speedling is a composition with a deadline. If the toss gets 3+ colossus out even a perfect surround can decisively lose an engagement with good forcefields. With nerfed neural you can't steal the colossus either. Hasu just needs to accept the eco disadvantage initially (which isn't that large because Dimaga wasn't droning hard, he was hitting a timing) and get the tech which nullifies it.

your point? not to get a 3rd? dimaga went for infestors btw

You delay the third until you have 2 colossus and then expand safely (and then push with 3+ colossi depending on what you see). Infestors aren't a counter to colossus any more. You don't even need blink to deny neurals. The only thing you need to babysit are the sentries to avoid getting fungal'd to death.

yes hear about the neural change.

read my edit pls.

The third delays the colossus a lot. You scout his army, react with colossus, get two, expand. Your army is fine size-wise (the amount of shit protoss can get off 2 base is amazing). It's not like you're over-investing in tech; you don't need twilight at all.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 06:41:20
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1267
On October 03 2011 15:39 Aiglatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


is it?? whats different?

rocks at 3rd. Weren't here in the Strelok game.

EDIT: IEM should really take care of the maps they use. T.T
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1268
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Mr Bitters I believe.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 06:40:53
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1269
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Lindsey Sporecrawler I think at NASL
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 03 2011 06:40 GMT
#1270
On October 03 2011 15:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Mr Bitters I believe.

Wasnt that Seltzer lolol
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provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1271
On October 03 2011 15:39 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:35 tuho12345 wrote:
2 major mistakes cost Dimaga 2 games. Threw 7 infestors in game 2 and now 7 BLs in game 4. Wow I can't believe that these guys are playing this badly


You would be amazed at what can happen to your nerves in situations such as these...

Cut the players a little slack.


Funny thing is its the same pattern in every game so far.....from all the players....
I mean a player like dimaga goes to many LANs ... never seen him like this
Im just a zerg
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1272
On October 03 2011 15:39 Aiglatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


is it?? whats different?

The 3rd base rocks are where the actual base is and there is no back door into the 3rd, meaning there is only 1 land route into your natural and you can't take an immediate 3rd like Dimaga is doing this game, since there's rocks there. The 3rd base is also a full base instead of a half base.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1273
On October 03 2011 15:39 Aiglatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


is it?? whats different?


GSL updated to use a version without backdoor rocks to the third, but with debris blocking the expo. It was supposed to make PvZ better on the map, it also makes ZvT really tough though.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1274
Both wrong it was Seltzer at NASL.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 06:41:50
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1275
nvm answered
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dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1276
On October 03 2011 15:39 Aiglatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:37 dooraven wrote:
uh oh, wrong version of Terminus.


is it?? whats different?

This version has rocks blocking a ramp into the third. The newer version has rocks at the third where you'd put your cc/nexus/hatch, and only one entrance.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1277
I REMEMBER THAT GAME <3
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#1278
On October 03 2011 15:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:40 Beyonder wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Mr Bitters I believe.

Wasnt that Seltzer lolol

Yea actually I think this might be right. It was either Seltzer or Lindsey


It was Seltzer at NASL
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 06:42:31
October 03 2011 06:42 GMT
#1279
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Don't remember if it was Sporrer or Incontrol's girlfriend. Think it was inc's girl.
oops yeah it was Seltzer right.
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 03 2011 06:42 GMT
#1280
On October 03 2011 15:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 15:40 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Who was it again that kept calling hasu hasuorbs?

Lindsey Sporecrawler I think at NASL


Pretty sure it was Seltzerplease. She interviewed HasuObs and some of the other players at the NASL finals.
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