• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:22
CET 09:22
KST 17:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2086 users

[GSL] Arena of Legends Finals - Page 18

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 34 Next All
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 02 2011 09:07 GMT
#341
On October 02 2011 18:05 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:03 Mioraka wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


No one said marines were OP before he made them OP. Most people were complaining about marauders.

He changed the TvZ matchup completely.

He popularized the 2 rax build.

He got 2nd place 4 times in GSL.


A lot of people said marines were good before him, they have insane dps and efficency, and how did he change TvZ ? Dont terran do marine/tank/medivacs anymore ?

Watch Kyrix vs MKP from Open Season 2, as well as their matches against other opponents.

That series revolutionized TvZ forever.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
urdak
Profile Joined December 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
October 02 2011 09:08 GMT
#342
On October 02 2011 18:05 Dominico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:04 urdak wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


obviously if someone manages to get so many 2nd places he's terrible and doesnt deserve to win anything, right?

Where do you see him saying he was terrible and didn't deserve to win things? Seriously, grow up.


yea you're right. still i dont understand how can anyone have that attitude towards mkp
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 09:09:21
October 02 2011 09:08 GMT
#343
So that would be a yes to 'do people feel sorry for him'

I admit he's one of the better T's and doesn't belong in with Polts designated 'doesnt deserve CodeS' group but in my eyes there's nothing about him which says to me he deserves it more than say Bomber or MMA

edit: by 'it' I mean a win
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
October 02 2011 09:08 GMT
#344
Too bad we don't see the players. I want to see MKP emotion after winning : D
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Nuithari
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium737 Posts
October 02 2011 09:08 GMT
#345
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


How can't you like him?
He got into GSL Open 2 from nowhere. And after a very scrappy first round, he picked himself up and beat Kyrix in an amazing matter, he beat both GSL Open 1 finalists on his way to give Nestea the scare of his life, being the only player to take a game of him and ending the finals at 4-3 in Nestea's favour. He changed the complete matchup in that tournament.

In GSL Jan, he showed of that Marines worked in TvT as well. The match against NaDa comes to mind.

He just delivers great matches time and time again.

He wears his heart on his sleeve and the Kong line helps him to get some popularity as well.

He just won me over at the start I guess
"Marineking's greatest strength is his enjoyment of the game" -Grubby
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 02 2011 09:09 GMT
#346
On October 02 2011 18:05 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:03 Mioraka wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


No one said marines were OP before he made them OP. Most people were complaining about marauders.

He changed the TvZ matchup completely.

He popularized the 2 rax build.

He got 2nd place 4 times in GSL.


A lot of people said marines were good before him, they have insane dps and efficency, and how did he change TvZ ? Dont terran do marine/tank/medivacs anymore ?


like super gosu marine splitting?
yo
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 02 2011 09:09 GMT
#347
On October 02 2011 18:05 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:03 Mioraka wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


No one said marines were OP before he made them OP. Most people were complaining about marauders.

He changed the TvZ matchup completely.

He popularized the 2 rax build.

He got 2nd place 4 times in GSL.


A lot of people said marines were good before him, they have insane dps and efficency, and how did he change TvZ ? Dont terran do marine/tank/medivacs anymore ?

Watch his games from GSL2, specifically against Kyrix. He was the first one to really do marine splitting and make them work against banelings.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
October 02 2011 09:09 GMT
#348
On October 02 2011 18:05 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:03 Mioraka wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


No one said marines were OP before he made them OP. Most people were complaining about marauders.

He changed the TvZ matchup completely.

He popularized the 2 rax build.

He got 2nd place 4 times in GSL.


A lot of people said marines were good before him, they have insane dps and efficency, and how did he change TvZ ? Dont terran do marine/tank/medivacs anymore ?


Hmm....i guess that explains why some people dont get why people like MKP, they obviously dont know much about the game.

Here's a hint about using marines: you gotta micro them.

I know it sounds obvious, but no one really does that before MKP appeared....
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
October 02 2011 09:10 GMT
#349
On October 02 2011 18:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
So that would be a yes to 'do people feel sorry for him'


No that's not it. Did you rly not watched GSL2 ?
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
October 02 2011 09:10 GMT
#350
MKP is cool but it's just funny to say he's always going to get 2nd.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
October 02 2011 09:10 GMT
#351
bought ticket, tried to use stream, says i need to buy ticket.....ffs
Ausfailia
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 09:10 GMT
#352
On October 02 2011 18:06 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


You poor bastard. You missed GSL2.

It's not your fault, it was a busy time in all our lives.

Go buy GSL season 2. Start watching the player known then as "Boxer". Note the rage, Artosis HATES him. Watch him kill the former champion fruitdealer... then watch the exact moment when rage turns to admiration as Foxer shows terran how to micro in what is STILL one of the best GSL series to date (MKP vs Kyrix). Think he can only do that TvZ? Watch the next series.


Beat me to it. I know I wasn't the only person who was converted to, and remains, a MKP fan after his series against Kyrix in GSL2.

The most recent example of a flash of brilliance from MKP that I can recall was game 4 against Leenock in GSL August... I know the majority of his play seems uninspiring, but games like that keep me hooked into MarineKing.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 02 2011 09:11 GMT
#353
Seriously, no one else with a lagging/buffering stream?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
October 02 2011 09:11 GMT
#354
On October 02 2011 18:08 Nuithari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:02 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I still dont get why people like MKP, what has he actually done to inspire people so? Is it the mass marines thing? Does no one else think marines are one of the most boring units in the game?

Or do people just feel sorry for him?

I dont get it


How can't you like him?
He got into GSL Open 2 from nowhere. And after a very scrappy first round, he picked himself up and beat Kyrix in an amazing matter, he beat both GSL Open 1 finalists on his way to give Nestea the scare of his life, being the only player to take a game of him and ending the finals at 4-3 in Nestea's favour. He changed the complete matchup in that tournament.

In GSL Jan, he showed of that Marines worked in TvT as well. The match against NaDa comes to mind.

He just delivers great matches time and time again.

He wears his heart on his sleeve and the Kong line helps him to get some popularity as well.

He just won me over at the start I guess


The into GSL Open 2 'from nowhere' thing made me laugh. Not only were half (guess) the qualifiers new, he played BW (and not very well [relatively])
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
October 02 2011 09:11 GMT
#355
On October 02 2011 18:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
So that would be a yes to 'do people feel sorry for him'

I admit he's one of the better T's and doesn't belong in with Polts designated 'doesnt deserve CodeS' group but in my eyes there's nothing about him which says to me he deserves it more than say Bomber or MMA

edit: by 'it' I mean a win

sometimes people don't support players because they are the best players, notice how there are fans for foreigners when they are actually no where near as good as mvp and nestea, seriously grow the hell up.
I hate all this singing
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 02 2011 09:11 GMT
#356
Marineking? More like Hellionking
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
October 02 2011 09:11 GMT
#357
...DRG hates roaches?
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#358
I don't understand people who don't understand why other people are fans of a player.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 09:14:19
October 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#359
Holy shit DRG, why don't you make 3 roaches. Really going to lose this series out of stubbornness?

And people say Idra is bad with going on tilt O_O
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#360
On October 02 2011 18:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
So that would be a yes to 'do people feel sorry for him'

I admit he's one of the better T's and doesn't belong in with Polts designated 'doesnt deserve CodeS' group but in my eyes there's nothing about him which says to me he deserves it more than say Bomber or MMA

edit: by 'it' I mean a win


So... reading comprehension is something you struggle with?

Again. Watch even just game one and five against Kyrix in GSL2. Or, alternatively, accept that that series showed what was at the time the best micro of any terran, and truly revolutionized TvZ. Prior to that, banelings were thought to be THE counter to marines. MKP begged to differ.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 241
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 650
Shuttle 581
Leta 335
Jaedong 317
Stork 278
PianO 207
Dewaltoss 71
Shinee 34
Bale 30
NotJumperer 23
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 17
soO 16
Dota 2
XaKoH 503
NeuroSwarm107
League of Legends
JimRising 588
Counter-Strike
fl0m1529
Other Games
summit1g15128
FrodaN1424
WinterStarcraft516
C9.Mang0289
mouzStarbuck77
Mew2King44
KnowMe26
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream6854
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1373
Other Games
gamesdonequick642
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH159
• LUISG 19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt1582
• Lourlo995
• HappyZerGling120
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
1h 38m
RSL Revival
1h 38m
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3h 38m
Cure vs Reynor
Classic vs herO
IPSL
8h 38m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
10h 38m
BSL 21
11h 38m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 1h
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
1d 3h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 3h
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
1d 11h
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d 11h
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.