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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#581
On September 22 2011 14:43 rightstuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:41 Maghetti wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:36 rightstuff wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:34 Maghetti wrote:
I wonder if there is a good way at all to beat that strat on that map if you get up lots of hellions and take the gold, and then pump out a few marauders. I can't think of any way to punish the gold if a terran does that because lings and roaches wouldn't be able to touch it and anything else wouldn't be out in time. Any ideas?


Going roaches and splitting the army to harass main and expo maybe.

:/ sounds like roaches would just die in 2 places.

I think the strat I just made in my head is untouchable. Hellion expand to the gold into fast marauders. Ebay for when mutas come. I do not think that gold base is touchable by zerg from any strat. Maybe what they can do is mass lings and banes with no mutas, speed for both and spread creep a lot so the marine micro isn't as effective.

In any case, all golds need rocks at this point, it is too abusable in zvp and tvz IMO.

Forget the split. That early in the game, you can have enough helions to counter lings, or enough marauders to counter the roaches. You can't have both, and the reinforcment distance favors the zerg's faster units. I think it's feasible to attack the gold with roaches or lings depending on what you unit comp you scout.

I of course don't know the timings but I would imagine they could build a techlab on the rax while pumping the first hellions and just 1 marauder and a few hellions and a few support SCVs could fend off the smaller amount of roached they could go. I am sure they could pressure a bit and kill a few workers, but I picture it fizzling out and being even base vs a terran with a gold. I don't know, i still say they need rocks on all gold bases.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#582
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#583
I enjoy the drones nonchalantly mining with a pylon amongst them
Platinum Support GOD
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#584
Protoss need to do that more often, fake cannon rushes. Just look how effective that was.
#freeshauni
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#585
Did we see the cancel animation? I didn't notice.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4403 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#586
On September 22 2011 14:45 usethis2 wrote:
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On September 22 2011 14:40 JJH777 wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:37 usethis2 wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:31 Disastorm wrote:
i have to agree i think microed marines can beat anything except for maybe Nesteas.

Nestea's micro is pretty bad, to be frank. It's hard to find zerg players with good micro. (Kyrix used to be really good but he stopped practicing like ages ago and now he's officially gone) I get that their units are mostly melee/short-ranged, but they don't even try. It looks almost like they run with all they've got and hope for the best. Fruitdealer also used to have a semi-decent micro. If you look at his season 1 run, his micro of zerg units are way better than some of today's top zergs'. Currently DRG seems to be best mutaling engagement v. marines/tanks.


Umm ling/bane vs ling/bane is the most micro intensive thing in the game and Nestea is godly at it. He was also the only player I had ever seen do good storm dodging up until the past few weeks with some terrans doing so. Nestea has amazing micro.

What do you think of Losira? Do you think Losira has an amazing micro as well?


I haven't watched as many Losira games as Nestea games and I can't really recall any times where he showed great ling/bane vs ling/bane micro so not sure what this has to do with me thinking Nestea has amazing micro. If he has demonstrated that then yes I do think he has good micro. It's impossible to be good at ling/bane vs ling/bane with bad micro.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#587
Oh shi-! Roach bust incoming?!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#588
I think protoss players should harass like that more, its similar to a 2 rax pressure
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HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#589
Yugiho going for a bust D:
Sure.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#590
On September 22 2011 14:47 Caesarion wrote:
Did we see the cancel animation? I didn't notice.

Yes, there was the new animation.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#591
roaches out, here comes a bust...

he's gonna need some cannons....
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#592
On September 22 2011 14:45 genius_man16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:41 Maghetti wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:36 rightstuff wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:34 Maghetti wrote:
I wonder if there is a good way at all to beat that strat on that map if you get up lots of hellions and take the gold, and then pump out a few marauders. I can't think of any way to punish the gold if a terran does that because lings and roaches wouldn't be able to touch it and anything else wouldn't be out in time. Any ideas?


Going roaches and splitting the army to harass main and expo maybe.

:/ sounds like roaches would just die in 2 places.

I think the strat I just made in my head is untouchable. Hellion expand to the gold into fast marauders. Ebay for when mutas come. I do not think that gold base is touchable by zerg from any strat. Maybe what they can do is mass lings and banes with no mutas, speed for both and spread creep a lot so the marine micro isn't as effective.

In any case, all golds need rocks at this point, it is too abusable in zvp and tvz IMO.


Pretty sure fast mutas would roll the strat. You can just contain the terran in their base, unless they wanna push out and then you just kill everything cuz it can't hit air.

So either you crush their push and expand 3 times, or hold them in their base and expand 3 times.

I have seen July use a super fast muta build that would have a decent chance.
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#593
nice scout hero! **knocks on some wood
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#594
On September 22 2011 14:47 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,


7:00

HerO walls his natural with gate, core, forge. (standard).

YuGiOh pushes out with 6 roaches and some slow lings.

HerO scouts out the push and prepares.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#595
This is such a bad idea
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
liam33
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada192 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#596
so he loses a probe, a pylon and gives his strategy away
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#597
And thats why you get the stargate.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#598
void inc
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#599
On September 22 2011 14:48 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:47 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,


7:00

HerO walls his natural with gate, core, forge. (standard).

YuGiOh pushes out with 6 roaches and some slow lings.

HerO scouts out the push and prepares.


8:00

HerO loses a forge and starts building void rays!

YuGiOh pulls back.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#600
No evo for YugiOh. Lair completes but start spamming queens buddy because its HERO TIME
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