• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:23
CEST 02:23
KST 09:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10941 users

[GSL] Code A RO16 Day 1 - Page 30

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 77 Next
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#581
On September 22 2011 14:43 rightstuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:41 Maghetti wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:36 rightstuff wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:34 Maghetti wrote:
I wonder if there is a good way at all to beat that strat on that map if you get up lots of hellions and take the gold, and then pump out a few marauders. I can't think of any way to punish the gold if a terran does that because lings and roaches wouldn't be able to touch it and anything else wouldn't be out in time. Any ideas?


Going roaches and splitting the army to harass main and expo maybe.

:/ sounds like roaches would just die in 2 places.

I think the strat I just made in my head is untouchable. Hellion expand to the gold into fast marauders. Ebay for when mutas come. I do not think that gold base is touchable by zerg from any strat. Maybe what they can do is mass lings and banes with no mutas, speed for both and spread creep a lot so the marine micro isn't as effective.

In any case, all golds need rocks at this point, it is too abusable in zvp and tvz IMO.

Forget the split. That early in the game, you can have enough helions to counter lings, or enough marauders to counter the roaches. You can't have both, and the reinforcment distance favors the zerg's faster units. I think it's feasible to attack the gold with roaches or lings depending on what you unit comp you scout.

I of course don't know the timings but I would imagine they could build a techlab on the rax while pumping the first hellions and just 1 marauder and a few hellions and a few support SCVs could fend off the smaller amount of roached they could go. I am sure they could pressure a bit and kill a few workers, but I picture it fizzling out and being even base vs a terran with a gold. I don't know, i still say they need rocks on all gold bases.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#582
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#583
I enjoy the drones nonchalantly mining with a pylon amongst them
Platinum Support GOD
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#584
Protoss need to do that more often, fake cannon rushes. Just look how effective that was.
#freeshauni
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#585
Did we see the cancel animation? I didn't notice.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#586
On September 22 2011 14:45 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:40 JJH777 wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:37 usethis2 wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:31 Disastorm wrote:
i have to agree i think microed marines can beat anything except for maybe Nesteas.

Nestea's micro is pretty bad, to be frank. It's hard to find zerg players with good micro. (Kyrix used to be really good but he stopped practicing like ages ago and now he's officially gone) I get that their units are mostly melee/short-ranged, but they don't even try. It looks almost like they run with all they've got and hope for the best. Fruitdealer also used to have a semi-decent micro. If you look at his season 1 run, his micro of zerg units are way better than some of today's top zergs'. Currently DRG seems to be best mutaling engagement v. marines/tanks.


Umm ling/bane vs ling/bane is the most micro intensive thing in the game and Nestea is godly at it. He was also the only player I had ever seen do good storm dodging up until the past few weeks with some terrans doing so. Nestea has amazing micro.

What do you think of Losira? Do you think Losira has an amazing micro as well?


I haven't watched as many Losira games as Nestea games and I can't really recall any times where he showed great ling/bane vs ling/bane micro so not sure what this has to do with me thinking Nestea has amazing micro. If he has demonstrated that then yes I do think he has good micro. It's impossible to be good at ling/bane vs ling/bane with bad micro.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#587
Oh shi-! Roach bust incoming?!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#588
I think protoss players should harass like that more, its similar to a 2 rax pressure
www.superbeerbrothers.com
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#589
Yugiho going for a bust D:
Sure.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#590
On September 22 2011 14:47 Caesarion wrote:
Did we see the cancel animation? I didn't notice.

Yes, there was the new animation.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#591
roaches out, here comes a bust...

he's gonna need some cannons....
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#592
On September 22 2011 14:45 genius_man16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:41 Maghetti wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:36 rightstuff wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:34 Maghetti wrote:
I wonder if there is a good way at all to beat that strat on that map if you get up lots of hellions and take the gold, and then pump out a few marauders. I can't think of any way to punish the gold if a terran does that because lings and roaches wouldn't be able to touch it and anything else wouldn't be out in time. Any ideas?


Going roaches and splitting the army to harass main and expo maybe.

:/ sounds like roaches would just die in 2 places.

I think the strat I just made in my head is untouchable. Hellion expand to the gold into fast marauders. Ebay for when mutas come. I do not think that gold base is touchable by zerg from any strat. Maybe what they can do is mass lings and banes with no mutas, speed for both and spread creep a lot so the marine micro isn't as effective.

In any case, all golds need rocks at this point, it is too abusable in zvp and tvz IMO.


Pretty sure fast mutas would roll the strat. You can just contain the terran in their base, unless they wanna push out and then you just kill everything cuz it can't hit air.

So either you crush their push and expand 3 times, or hold them in their base and expand 3 times.

I have seen July use a super fast muta build that would have a decent chance.
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#593
nice scout hero! **knocks on some wood
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#594
On September 22 2011 14:47 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,


7:00

HerO walls his natural with gate, core, forge. (standard).

YuGiOh pushes out with 6 roaches and some slow lings.

HerO scouts out the push and prepares.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#595
This is such a bad idea
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
liam33
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada192 Posts
September 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#596
so he loses a probe, a pylon and gives his strategy away
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11077 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#597
And thats why you get the stargate.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
rightstuff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#598
void inc
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#599
On September 22 2011 14:48 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:47 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:46 HaruRH wrote:
On September 22 2011 14:44 HaruRH wrote:
Game 1

(Z)YuGiOh <Terminus RE 1.1> (P)HerO

1:00

YuGiOh spawns on 3.

HerO spawns on 9.

gogo HerO!


3:00

HerO Forge FE.

YuGiOh hatch first.

Oh gawd the ignorant talk from moletrap! HerO does not represent teamliquid.net!



5:00

HerO built a pylon in the centre of the mineral patches of YuGiOh's natural.

YuGiOh going roach,


7:00

HerO walls his natural with gate, core, forge. (standard).

YuGiOh pushes out with 6 roaches and some slow lings.

HerO scouts out the push and prepares.


8:00

HerO loses a forge and starts building void rays!

YuGiOh pulls back.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#600
No evo for YugiOh. Lair completes but start spamming queens buddy because its HERO TIME
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 77 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #1
CranKy Ducklings56
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 142
SpeCial 95
CosmosSc2 40
RuFF_SC2 36
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5405
Artosis 626
Sexy 42
Dota 2
monkeys_forever630
NeuroSwarm134
League of Legends
JimRising 398
Counter-Strike
taco 152
minikerr2
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0296
hungrybox271
PPMD47
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor136
Other Games
summit1g10368
tarik_tv4482
Mew2King36
kaitlyn1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick885
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• RyuSc2 52
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1054
• Scarra887
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 37m
PiGosaur Cup
23h 37m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.