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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3841
On September 18 2011 00:45 Oboeman wrote:
isn't naniwa in the startale house?


No, that was only for a week or two I think. He is going to the MVP house though I think I read...
Nachor
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany83 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3842
Just tuned in.

Didn't think Thorzain could beat HuK, hope there were Macro games involved.

I've been watching to much GSL, it feels strange being able to read the supply counts.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3843
I just wanna throw it out there that Probe1 is the best probe. Gogo LR skills~
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3844
Ultrasurf made my day!
pusmoh
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany75 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3845
On September 18 2011 00:45 Timerly wrote:
Naniwa is not in the GOM house Oo He's in a prohouse, forgot which one but there are photos and stuff lol.


He was in the StarTale house for 2 or 3 weeks, at the moment he's in the gom house.

But I think he twittered he'll be going to the MVP house soon.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3846
On September 18 2011 00:44 Benzzro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:41 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.


I see you also have done some great contribution to this thread .

Oh and Ultrasurf is working great


I have but apparently disagreeing with the masses on TL is warrant to get you called a "troll".
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3847
On September 18 2011 00:45 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:42 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore


That is interesting but not very valid anymore. That post is over a month old and was written based on information that is even older. As I said, don't just regurgitate other people's words. If you watch any terran streamer on TL youd see they are all having massive difficulty vs. toss.


Dude, he's talking about Korean Terrans, he just said that before, are you like durrmmm? Or...
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3848
A bit of BM by Apollo imo, I'm not saying he is wrong but since they are both in the same team I would think he would choose his words more carefully.
excellent!
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3849
On September 18 2011 00:45 Timerly wrote:
Naniwa is not in the GOM house Oo He's in a prohouse, forgot which one but there are photos and stuff lol.

He was in startale house for 2 weeks.
Went to GOMhouse.
When he goes back to Korea he is going to MVP house.

Please check your sources when you try to correct someone. You look retarded that way.
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3850
On September 18 2011 00:45 Timerly wrote:
Naniwa is not in the GOM house Oo He's in a prohouse, forgot which one but there are photos and stuff lol.


well he was in the gom house until like a few days ago, think he went to MVP house now?
he was in ST-house the first 2 weeks, then he has been in GOM-house with SaSe, Select, Sjow, Drewbie etc
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3851
On September 18 2011 00:46 Aeres wrote:
I just wanna throw it out there that Probe1 is the best probe. Gogo LR skills~

This, he's doing a great job.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#3852
hopefully rain gets out conc fast =/ blink is hard to hold on this map
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3853
On September 18 2011 00:47 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:44 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:41 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.


I see you also have done some great contribution to this thread .

Oh and Ultrasurf is working great


I have but apparently disagreeing with the masses on TL is warrant to get you called a "troll".


It is when you're so obviously wrong.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3854
Would be interesting if Nani whipped out some DT play. Don't think I've ever seen him get one.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3855
On September 18 2011 00:47 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:44 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:41 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.


I see you also have done some great contribution to this thread .

Oh and Ultrasurf is working great


I have but apparently disagreeing with the masses on TL is warrant to get you called a "troll".


No but expressing your opinion without any explanation or argument, does warrant a troll comment
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3856
On September 18 2011 00:47 andycz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:46 Aeres wrote:
I just wanna throw it out there that Probe1 is the best probe. Gogo LR skills~

This, he's doing a great job.

Fucking man I'm sitting here talking about OSL finals in irc smoking a cigarette and then I read that.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3857
On September 18 2011 00:47 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:44 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:41 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.


I see you also have done some great contribution to this thread .

Oh and Ultrasurf is working great


I have but apparently disagreeing with the masses on TL is warrant to get you called a "troll".


Being passive-aggressive while having a ton of people disagree with you is contributing
memes are a dish best served dank
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3858
MGS scv style
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
September 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#3859
This is very risky. I haven't really seen blink play work often vs Terran.
Teiwaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria158 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3860
WHTF?! Downloaded Ultrasurf, now watching 720p+ without any lag issues at all?!

Seriously, fuck you twich.tv!
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