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Please avoid making the following comments in this topic:

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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3861
On September 18 2011 00:45 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:42 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore


That is interesting but not very valid anymore. That post is over a month old and was written based on information that is even older. As I said, don't just regurgitate other people's words. If you watch any terran streamer on TL youd see they are all having massive difficulty vs. toss.


I think you might be talking about foreigner PvT. In that case, I agree, foreigner terrans have lots of troubles against protoss. In korea, however, PvT is completely lopsided in favor of terran.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3862
6:40
Terminus RE cross positions Naniwa pressuring the bunker front of Rain, expo completed for Rain Nani has to do damage he has no expansion.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3863
On September 18 2011 00:47 Benzzro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:45 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:42 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore


That is interesting but not very valid anymore. That post is over a month old and was written based on information that is even older. As I said, don't just regurgitate other people's words. If you watch any terran streamer on TL youd see they are all having massive difficulty vs. toss.


Dude, he's talking about Korean Terrans, he just said that before, are you like durrmmm? Or...


Stop it. Just stop it.

He's probably trolling, I don't even want to imagine the alternative.

If you ignore him, he won't have anyone to reply to.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3864
On September 18 2011 00:48 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:47 andycz wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:46 Aeres wrote:
I just wanna throw it out there that Probe1 is the best probe. Gogo LR skills~

This, he's doing a great job.

Fucking man I'm sitting here talking about OSL finals in irc smoking a cigarette and then I read that.

See? He's like one of those hardass '40s detectives in Chicago that won't take shit from anyone. What a boss.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3865
Eh, i think naniwa isnt playing his best ;/
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3866

On September 18 2011 00:42 Proxd wrote:
If people can't even complain for a laggy stream...

Please don't come crying later when e-sport is dying for the lack money support.




That's quite a stretch but, laggy stream - less viewer - less advertising/w-e - less money - less e-sport support.

Thank you.


The thing you don't understand is, having 10 pages of people QQing about lag doesn't help. Won't make them fix is faster.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#3867
defensible : D
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3868
On September 18 2011 00:49 Probe1 wrote:
6:40
Terminus RE cross positions Naniwa pressuring the bunker front of Rain, expo completed for Rain Nani has to do damage he has no expansion.

7:30
Nani strokes his brilliance and walks around the bunker. He snipes a few workers and forces the natural to lift off. Nani is bulldogging Rain, forcing him to stay up his ramp.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3869
Think I saw this exact build from Nani on this map. Was it against Thorzain?
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3870
That's some god tier micro there nani
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3871
Thank you very very much to the person that said that people that are lagging should DL ultrasurf it really helped thanks
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3872
On September 18 2011 00:49 Caesarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:47 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:45 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:42 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore


That is interesting but not very valid anymore. That post is over a month old and was written based on information that is even older. As I said, don't just regurgitate other people's words. If you watch any terran streamer on TL youd see they are all having massive difficulty vs. toss.


Dude, he's talking about Korean Terrans, he just said that before, are you like durrmmm? Or...


Stop it. Just stop it.

He's probably trolling, I don't even want to imagine the alternative.

If you ignore him, he won't have anyone to reply to.


That's the problem with some TL posters, you just don't know sometimes
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 17 2011 15:50 GMT
#3873
so intense x_x
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3874
On September 18 2011 00:50 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:49 Probe1 wrote:
6:40
Terminus RE cross positions Naniwa pressuring the bunker front of Rain, expo completed for Rain Nani has to do damage he has no expansion.

7:30
Nani strokes his brilliance and walks around the bunker. He snipes a few workers and forces the natural to lift off. Nani is bulldogging Rain, forcing him to stay up his ramp.

9:00
Combat shield completes vs Blink micro. Naniwa breaks through the bunkers. It's a even fight both players fighting but Naniwa retreats temporarily.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3875
And Rain holds!
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3876
Great micro by both players.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3877
TARSON HOLDS!

such a delay on stim tho ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3878
Naniwa is so dead.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3879
I don't think I've ever seen this 1-base blink stuff work vT
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:51:55
September 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#3880
Pretty awful set of games so far. Only HerO vs IdrA g2 was worth watching.
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