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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3821
ahahha rain's picture no signal xD
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3822
On September 18 2011 00:41 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.


I see you also have done some great contribution to this thread .

Oh and Ultrasurf is working great
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3823
On September 18 2011 00:43 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:39 marttorn wrote:
Vikings O_O shit! Haven't seen those in a while in TvP.

Well, nvm, he'll start appropriately spamming ghosts soon i'm sure.


didnt you ever watch tvp?
vikings are the counter to colossi, ghosts to templar.
there were no templars at all, ghosts are very bad vs colossi


Yeah obv, I meant that it's been a long time since we've seen collosi

Basically it's been a lot of Zealot/archon getting EMP'ed to hell last few months >,<
memes are a dish best served dank
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3824
On September 18 2011 00:42 McKTenor13 wrote:
Im wondering wht countries all of you with the lag are from? In the states this stream is probably the smoothest I've ever watched a stream at 480p. And usually most streams lag at 480p for me x.x


if you have actually read any of the complaints, we're from all over Europe.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:45:06
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3825
On September 18 2011 00:43 Spitmode wrote:
would be so ballsy to go and 1 1 1 allin now^^ nani has gone for a quick expo every game


Would make more sense to do a hidden 2 rax in that case. Naniwa's build is essentially the blind counter to 1/1/1.

And when I say blind counter, I mean about a 50% chance to pull through.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#3826
Sick mind games incoming.

Nani knows Rain loves ghost pushes
Rain knows Nani knows that he loves ghost pushes.
Rain hasn't done a ghost push yet, there's one game left.

Does he go to it, or does he do something else knowing that Nani probably expects it.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3827
isn't naniwa in the startale house?
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3828
On September 18 2011 00:44 Asha` wrote:
Sick mind games incoming.

Nani knows Rain loves ghost pushes
Rain knows Nani knows that he loves ghost pushes.
Rain hasn't done a ghost push yet, there's one game left.

Does he go to it, or does he do something else knowing that Nani probably expects it.

It's like Inception! O_o
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3829
On September 18 2011 00:42 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore


That is interesting but not very valid anymore. That post is over a month old and was written based on information that is even older. As I said, don't just regurgitate other people's words. If you watch any terran streamer on TL youd see they are all having massive difficulty vs. toss.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3830
Naniwa is not in the GOM house Oo He's in a prohouse, forgot which one but there are photos and stuff lol.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3831
On September 18 2011 00:45 Oboeman wrote:
isn't naniwa in the startale house?

He was for 2 weeks, hes going to the MVP house i think tho
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
September 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#3832
The problem is that you should be complaining to the stream provider if you are lagging rather than in this thread...

Bottom right corner of justintv has a nice little report button.
...
TaktiDerBlonde
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany33 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3833
no lag here in germany, smooth as silk.
Gebildete MC's fühln sich untight wenn ich boxe!
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3834
that is some bizarre commentating. Glad to know Apollo knows Naniwa well enough to let the world know that he doesn't accept other cultures as well as Thorzain.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:46:48
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3835
Thorzain was in Slayers house for, what, a week? Apollo is basically quite uninformed about the situation, how these players practice and so forth, but feels it necessary to speculate regardless
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3836
On September 18 2011 00:45 Oboeman wrote:
isn't naniwa in the startale house?


He was for a couple of weeks, got on with Ace and Squirtle alright iirc. ST thought he was staying short term due to a mix up with GOM, he's been at the GOM house the last couple of weeks, and I believe is going to stay with MVP after this event.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3837
On September 18 2011 00:30 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:28 Nifel wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:26 Eufouria wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too

He was in code S from the start, until he left it through choice, thats pretty impressive. And he's managed to compete with the MLG Korean invites, despite living in New York for the last couple of months. What other 'foreigner' can claim that?


Rain was perhaps not "special", but he was always in the top, competing in Code S which, quite honestly, surpasses any and all of Naniwa's past achievements.


Too bad achievements don't dictate who's the better player now.

And let's be honest, Starcraft 2 as a whole was awful when Rain was in the top. Only NesTea and Jinro played in a way that makes any sense (and Idra I guess).


Rain voluntarily gave up his Code S in July. I guess Starcraft was awful two months ago.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3838
On September 18 2011 00:44 Asha` wrote:
Sick mind games incoming.

Nani knows Rain loves ghost pushes
Rain knows Nani knows that he loves ghost pushes.
Rain hasn't done a ghost push yet, there's one game left.

Does he go to it, or does he do something else knowing that Nani probably expects it.


dont think so, ghost push sucks on this map cross
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3839
"Last few weeks"? Wasn't Thorzain in SlayerS house like 3-4 last days in Korea before he went home?
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
September 17 2011 15:46 GMT
#3840
On September 18 2011 00:45 Timerly wrote:
Naniwa is not in the GOM house Oo He's in a prohouse, forgot which one but there are photos and stuff lol.

He left ST I think
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