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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
September 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#3781
On September 18 2011 00:36 Teiwaz wrote:
Sorry Dreamhack, but this time you fucked up hard. Totally unwatchable due to lag, even on 240p (and I tried different browsers)!

Btw. don't try that canalplus.es stream + dApollo & TB in the background, to much delay between those streams.

google ultrasurf.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
September 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#3782
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


User was warned for this post
iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
September 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#3783
On September 18 2011 00:38 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:36 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
I dont really see why lag comments arent allowed. How are they supposed to know there is a problem?


You may just be joking, but I kind of doubt the twitch TV guys/whoever are failing out reads the TL LR thread-.

No but TB/Appolo might. They could tell the production crew who could notify Twitch. So by not allowing comments about lag, we are actually just acknowledging the problem instead of trying to voice our opinion.
(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ OW YEAH!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3784
On September 18 2011 00:38 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:30 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 Probe1 wrote:
(P)NaNiwa
vs
(T)Rain
on
Shakuras Plateau

3:00
Gasless Rain 1 rax 2 supply depots vs Naniwas fast two gas 1 gate cyber.
3:45
Rain's FE

5:10
Naniwa expands, Rain has already completed his at natural CC and turned it into an OC, this game off a much more economical 3rax. Both players being safe and economical.

10:00
Thermal Lance half way done as conc/stim complete and a double drop is in route to nani's main.

10:20
Naniwa with the worst luck finds an undefended, isolated colossus in Nanis main and snipes it then retreats while macroing the counter at home. Dead even supply between players.

12:40
Naniwa moving out on the map at the worst time as a double drop in the main and a single drop at the natural simultanously occur. Naniwa cleans up his main easily and after a probe pull he cleans the natural.

Nani counters up the Rains natural ramp but Rain has an answer this time. 10+ vikings shred the colossus count.

Nani backs off and leaves Rain to his own devices- completing 3 more rax and a ghost acad.

17:50
Rain maxed out far ahead of Naniwa, no HT but a lot of zealots cottonball below Colossii for Nani.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
qetou
Profile Joined January 2011
39 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3785
yeah rain destroy him!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3786
gg from naniwa! nuke time?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3787
gg well played by rain. seems like he is still decent
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3788
now don't let him nuke you again, nani
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3789
Yessssssss

Rain Fighting <3
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3790
On September 18 2011 00:41 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:38 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:35 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:30 Probe1 wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 Probe1 wrote:
(P)NaNiwa
vs
(T)Rain
on
Shakuras Plateau

3:00
Gasless Rain 1 rax 2 supply depots vs Naniwas fast two gas 1 gate cyber.
3:45
Rain's FE

5:10
Naniwa expands, Rain has already completed his at natural CC and turned it into an OC, this game off a much more economical 3rax. Both players being safe and economical.

10:00
Thermal Lance half way done as conc/stim complete and a double drop is in route to nani's main.

10:20
Naniwa with the worst luck finds an undefended, isolated colossus in Nanis main and snipes it then retreats while macroing the counter at home. Dead even supply between players.

12:40
Naniwa moving out on the map at the worst time as a double drop in the main and a single drop at the natural simultanously occur. Naniwa cleans up his main easily and after a probe pull he cleans the natural.

Nani counters up the Rains natural ramp but Rain has an answer this time. 10+ vikings shred the colossus count.

Nani backs off and leaves Rain to his own devices- completing 3 more rax and a ghost acad.

17:50
Rain maxed out far ahead of Naniwa, no HT but a lot of zealots cottonball below Colossii for Nani.

Nani loses all of his colossii as he marches towards Rain. Once he crashes into Rain it's clear there's no chance and he gg's
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3791
Damn... nani decided to all in or nothing that game 5 minutes ago TT
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3792
On September 18 2011 00:40 Benzzro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:37 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:34 Benzzro wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Actually you should probably get your eyes checked, he said 'MIDGAME' and the 65% win rate was posted on the graphs posted a few weeks ago in a thread on the KR server


Oh, the irony.


Surprised you actually replied, making yourself look like an idiot and all

@The laggy stream - > (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ -


Again, nice insightful and informative post. I really hope an admin takes note of this.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#3793
really nice hold by rain, nani didn't quite know what to do when he dropped, imagine he was going for a 4 colo timing with lance
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3794
Naniwa tries to push with Archons, Zealots and Colossi, GGs after the push gets killed by Rain's Vikings and MMM.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3795
On September 18 2011 00:32 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:28 mordk wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:23 rO_Or wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:22 Headnoob wrote:
Rain was nothing special in korea, glad to see he's gone back to being nothing special outside of it too


LOL so ignorant. TvP is a ridiculously hard matchup right now. The only build with mild success is 1-1-1 and its not too difficult for toss to stop if they scout whatsoever. Not really surprised to see him losing to naniwa.


What?? Exactly what cave have you been hiding in for the last couple of months?

TvP in korea is like 65% win rate for Terran. 1-1-1 crushed the matchup and cannot be countered easily even when scouted. In the midgame, most good terrans will snipe key tech structures with marauder drops and then proceed to EMP protoss army to death. It is only in the lategame when TvP looks better.


Your post makes absolutely no sense and just goes to show that the majority of people here just regurgitate the same "facts" over and over again. Link some confirmation on the 65% win rate? 1-1-1 doesn't get you ghosts or emp or drops. Maybe a single medivac.


Oh god... I'm gonna stop derailing this thread after this post, of course 1-1-1 doesn't get you drops or emp or ghosts, it's what happens in the midgame when terran DOESN'T 1-1-1.

When they do a perfect 1-1-1 between 2 equally skilled players, they win most of the time. If they don't do so right away, the second wave usually ends the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252090

TLPD Stats, go to the Korea graph, it's 38% P, 62% T. I think in aug the gap is a little smaller but still......

OK, that said, I'm not discussing PvT in this thread anymore
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3796
what a snooze
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3797
On September 18 2011 00:40 akaname wrote:
i started running ultrasurf and the stream seems much better.
how is it doing that??

You have an American IP if I am right. Justin.tv just sucks for EU.
Kimla
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden400 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3798
for the ppl having lagg problem download ultrasurf fixed my lagg.
no gg no skill
Proxd
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium37 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3799
If people can't even complain for a laggy stream...

Please don't come crying later when e-sport is dying for the lack money support.




That's quite a stretch but, laggy stream - less viewer - less advertising/w-e - less money - less e-sport support.

Thank you.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#3800
This game was over ages ago
gg

Hope naniwa can take g3
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