EPT[GSL] August Up&Down Day 2 - Page 26
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:34 darkness wrote: Since balance whining is forbidden, I wanna ask you one question: Is there even ONE protoss in GSL that does well *consistently*? Quit complaining. SC2 is so volatile, Terrans and Zergs are not able to be consistent either. Nestea fell to up and downs, MVP fell to code A as well, remember? | ||
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:37 Amestir wrote: Hongun, for zeratuls sake! Hongun is the most consistent player in the whole GSL. Even his strats are consistent, as are his blink stalker micro abilities | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:37 IntoTheSnow wrote: Terrible play from MC. If he continues like this he dont deserve code S. Problems: 1. Why no anti-air? 2. Why not take the middle with blink stalkers/cannon? 3. Why the hell did u make pure zealots vs roach/hydra? You dont want to micro?.... 4. Why make stargate units and not deny the third from going up? Theres no creep to third yet when he was harrassing with phoenixes. Whats the point of making phoenix if u dont want to control anything?....... If MC keeps this up, he should go back to code A and grind his way back up which would actually benefit him more as a progamer. If you are fan of MC, I think code A is better for him now. 1. He had Phoenix, he couldn't afford Stalkers because of the quick transition from air to Colossus, which was bad. 2. As stated, no money for dem Stalkers. 3. As stated, no money for dem Stalkers. 4. He had enough Phoenix to be annoying as hell to those queens, I dunno why he didn't send the Void Ray there. Taking a position with cannons isn't something viable though. | ||
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Montana[TK]
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:34 darkness wrote: Since balance whining is forbidden, I wanna ask you one question: Is there even ONE protoss in GSL that does well *consistently*? The answer is Hongun , he never played in the Up/Downs if i remember correctly. | ||
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Lorelei
Russian Federation9 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:35 Maenander wrote: No chance against Losira. Quod erat expectandum. he has chance if they play on another map, like taldarim or metalopolis | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:34 itsjuspeter wrote: This is a huge reason why protoss are doing so bad, predictability really is causing protoss to get killed left and right. We have a few "standard safe builds", but even then, it gets read easily without even scouting, correct if im wrong but losira took a third without even scouting the lower pylon, I could be wrong. Personally I think a lot of the problems is protoss doesn't have the ability that we know of doing safe aggression except with these stargate builds. Zerg can explode with units and terran can hide behind bunkers, use hellions and banshees. Protoss can't do mobile aggression and if you lose a few stalkers, zealots, and especially a voidray without doing considerable damage, you become very far behind in comparison to the zerg that throws away a few speedlings or the terran that throws away a few hellions. | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:36 Heavenly wrote: Please explain how MC would have ever secured a third base and been able to defend on that map. Or was he supposed to turtle to 200/200 on two base while Losira takes the map and goes broodlord/corruptor? Well, I'm not a Protoss player, I'm a Zerg, so I'm just thinking out loud and trying to see how a Protoss player may think of this situation. One thing is clear: two base Protoss timings are obsolete against Zerg now. I'm just wondering if there's maybe a really safe (cannon heavy?) style that can secure a third and max out reasonably quickly. | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:38 Grampz wrote: NaDa...for god sake if hongun is the best protoss in GSL i will throw my computer out the window Never said the best. But look it up. Based on results Hongun is more consistent then Nada. | ||
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:36 Amestir wrote: I still dream of a revival of Kyrix. He impressed me SO much against MKP. And ever since he's just... bad. Cuz that's when he played good is when everyone was bad. | ||
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:35 densha wrote: Anyone have a reason why Protosses don't just turtle to 200/200 against Zerg? Zergs have the standard two-base Protoss builds figured out to the point that an early third hatch is now standard. You're just not going to hurt a Zerg with any two base attack when he's on three bases. It doesnt work. Late game Zerg army beats Toss easy if the Zerg is on more bases... almost nothing you can do vs Infestor/Broodlord... + whatever with instant remax. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Insomniac22
United States907 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On September 07 2011 18:37 Fionn wrote: MC's ass is near off the protoss throne. Only two losses to go. Then I guess it would go to the next most accomplished protoss + Show Spoiler + HongUn MCs "ass" has been off the throne since he lost to Alicia (05-27 Super Tournament). I've gotten flamed relentlessly for saying that and i'm glad to see it being more undeniable now  | ||
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