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On September 07 2011 18:31 Brett wrote:
Terrible play there.
"Hey, why don't I make every tech in the game on two base, while my opponent gets 4 or 5 bases and then do an incredibly late attack where I waste every unit I have"....
There was no game plan there at all...
yeah, i thought mc was about to turtle and secure his third, then he went in for that attack, mc really isn't what he used to be -.-
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Losira played well: MC has no choice but to push out when Losira is happily getting his 4th base along with a handful of upgrades.
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On September 07 2011 18:31 Jehct wrote:
MC had a huge window where he could have taken a third right after the second colossus popped; simple bad timings by him there =/ I don't understand how tosses miss expansion timings with obs out (though Losira made an overseer... eventually).
what are you talking about...... losira was waiting for him to take the third to attack... have you seen any ZvP recently? =_=
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Russian Federation9 Posts
Map is very bad for protoss
Losira takes 3rd easily, but MC cant do it 
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I swear everytime someone will somehow ask whether Check's keyboard is pink.
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On September 07 2011 18:31 Maghetti wrote:
Why did MC more or less 2 base allin? He didn't take a 3rd and instead attacked with a army he had no hope of replacing without a 3rd base...
Its very very difficult to take a third on that map - if you stretch out your defenses, Losira will absolutely rape you with his ling run-by's. With Losira getting his fourth, MC had to do a two base all-in, there isn't really much you can do.
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On September 07 2011 18:32 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 18:30 Hall0wed wrote:
Why do Protoss players keep going early Stargate against Zerg, It really isn't good outside of an all-in. It's one of the only ways we can deny the third without the risk of getting caught and losing our whole army, as well as the only way to gain any map control with a fast expansion. Opening Stargate wasn't the problem here, it was that he continued to make units when he should have just made the one void ray and like 4 or 5 phoenix and then focused purely on ground army.
That's exactly what he did.
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Since balance whining is forbidden, I wanna ask you one question:
Is there even ONE protoss in GSL that does well *consistently*?
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On September 07 2011 18:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 18:31 bittman wrote:On September 07 2011 18:29 hugedong wrote:
What a terrible map. Easy third for one, and other person can't take a third. Ever since it's introduction I've been waiting for it to be un-introduced haha. Rotational symmetry in a 3 player map doesn't work that well imo. I think rotational symmetry in general sucks myself. But yeah, it's particularly bad on a 3 player map.
I hate 3 player maps overall. They feel constricted even though they're supposed to add a bit of diversity. Might as well just make it a 2 player map
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On September 07 2011 18:31 Absentia wrote:
That air play into 2 base colossus is so horrible.
It's the most predictable play in the world and relies on the opponent being an idiot and overmaking hydras/not getting a spire.
This is a huge reason why protoss are doing so bad, predictability really is causing protoss to get killed left and right. We have a few "standard safe builds", but even then, it gets read easily without even scouting, correct if im wrong but losira took a third without even scouting the lower pylon, I could be wrong.
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Russian Federation53 Posts
ImMvp became a better player after he droped down to code A, i guess it would be better for mc to drop down to code A either) Some kind of motivation for more practice.
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On September 07 2011 18:33 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 18:31 Brett wrote:
Terrible play there.
"Hey, why don't I make every tech in the game on two base, while my opponent gets 4 or 5 bases and then do an incredibly late attack where I waste every unit I have"....
There was no game plan there at all... yeah, i thought mc was about to turtle and secure his third, then he went in for that attack, mc really isn't what he used to be -.-
Watch any ZvP in the last forever from any competent zerg, they don't just let the protoss turtle and take their third......
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Roach hydra corruptor vs protoss, wasn't protoss crushing this 5+ months ago?
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MC can be really happy that kyrix and check are much worse than him, so he has a shot at winning against those zergs
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tbh MC should just go for some old-school 6gate. That shit gives even top Zergs a lot of trouble and with his FFs it rapes even harder.
Dunno why he goes for Stargate when LosirA has shown time and time again that he holds that perfectly while getting to 70 drones.
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I'm so sick of that song!
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On September 07 2011 18:31 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 18:29 hugedong wrote:
What a terrible map. Easy third for one, and other person can't take a third. Ever since it's introduction I've been waiting for it to be un-introduced haha. Rotational symmetry in a 3 player map doesn't work that well imo.
Yea this, rotational symmetry in a 3 player map means that there will be a 100% chance that one player will have a positional advantage over another. Not saying that this is the main reason MC lost, as he did play pretty bad, but still a terrible map nontheless
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interesting play from mc. to bad losira made some roaches instead of going for infestor.
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As a Protoss player, still wouldn't mind MC going down to Code A.
Wouldn't mind at all.
A Protoss who has issues beating a Zerg just needs to practice more, despite if it's Bronze-league level or Code-S level.
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