On September 04 2011 14:48 teko wrote:
Also never heard of ogs Illusion. Did he use a different nickname before?
Also never heard of ogs Illusion. Did he use a different nickname before?
Ohhhhhhhhhh he's zeNEX icecream
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Mike15xp
United States595 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:48 teko wrote: Also never heard of ogs Illusion. Did he use a different nickname before? Ohhhhhhhhhh he's zeNEX icecream | ||
windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
i always thought they slithered like snakes. Probes float though | ||
hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:52 windsupernova wrote: Ummm, do drones really float? i always thought they slithered like snakes. Probes float though I think all workers float. SCV's too. | ||
McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:52 windsupernova wrote: Ummm, do drones really float? i always thought they slithered like snakes. Probes float though Don't SCV's float too? Maybe this is the one thing that can bring all the races together | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:55 DoNotDisturb wrote: Who's casting, Wolf and Doa? Yes | ||
Pcgamer72
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:44 Arceus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2011 14:26 mprs wrote: On September 04 2011 14:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: On September 04 2011 14:19 Arceus wrote: On September 04 2011 14:15 windsupernova wrote: On September 04 2011 14:12 blahz0r wrote: FXOWolf Wolf Schröder I'm told by @junkka83 that lOvShinyStar was approached by several teams but his parents forbade him from joining! Aren't Korean parents usually supportive of their children playing StarCraft or even becoming pros? No, thats a myth made by foreigners. There is an old old interview with Savior and Boxer where they talk about how progamers didn´t get much respect as a serious profession. I am sure its better than outside of Korea. Or maybe they are big fans of BW It's just rational thinking by parents. I would not let my son play 8 hours straight or move out to live with 15 others for the same purpose. I agree. I would be skeptical of their future. I would much rather my child get an education and a "real" job unless my son was Nestea. then I would totally let him game for 24 hours a day Your son wouldn't be Nestea if you don't let him practice. At the risk of derailing this into a parenting thread, I will say this: If your kid is really passionate about something, don't get in the way of it. The highest level of success comes from a high level of passion. You could force them to be a doctor/lawyer, but you can't force them to be passionate about being a doctor/lawyer. At best, they will be mediocre at it and happy about its perks. From a parenting stand point, yes it will be a success. But you should at least believe that whatever unorthodox thing a child wants to do, he/she can do it well and can do it better than everyone else. In most fields, that will give you just as much security and he/she will be much happier. Also, go w0n! Good point. But that may apply to sport or music, not playing games (yea only we nerds call it esport). Still, out of millions who play, there must be 400, 500 cases in which a)parents (hesitantly) support b)mature enough to decide on their own path c)doesnt give a damn about parents. Kid like Shinystar probably doenst fall into any of those category but if he keeps on trying and gets some success, he will achieve point a or else, point c lol Right. Ten years ago, people didn't even think (rightfully so) that you could make a living off of this, even if you are the best. Now there is absolutely no doubt that you could make a very good living if you are the best (in fact, very very very very good). Nestea has already hit 200kish USD in a year. Not to mention the investment into the future (although, quite risky) that the game will continue to grow. I mean, FlasH makes about what... 300-400k? We are just about half off in one year what BW managed to do in 10. No one knows what will happen in the future. If SC2 grows as much as BW or more, then your time investment will pay off very well. SC2 has the potential to harness the entire world as a market, rather than just Korea. The road was already paved by the brave men (and women) who helped BW grow. Back on the (off) topic, no one will ever be the best or competitive if he isn't passionate about it. Sometimes you have to believe in your kid, and realize that it is a risk/reward situation, just like everything else in life. | ||
Mike15xp
United States595 Posts
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teko
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2011 14:15 windsupernova wrote: On September 04 2011 14:12 blahz0r wrote: FXOWolf Wolf Schröder I'm told by @junkka83 that lOvShinyStar was approached by several teams but his parents forbade him from joining! Aren't Korean parents usually supportive of their children playing StarCraft or even becoming pros? No, thats a myth made by foreigners. never heard of this myth before :o It's definitely a myth. Almost every Starcraft interview where a progamer was asked how he got into progaming consists of the usual parents wanted me to study/had to play in pc bangs in secret/ran away from home to pursue my dream, etc. The idea that Koreans have it easier to become progamers has to do with infrastructure and peer pressure, not parental support. | ||
rauk
United States2228 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:56 mprs wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2011 14:44 Arceus wrote: On September 04 2011 14:26 mprs wrote: On September 04 2011 14:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: On September 04 2011 14:19 Arceus wrote: On September 04 2011 14:15 windsupernova wrote: On September 04 2011 14:12 blahz0r wrote: FXOWolf Wolf Schröder I'm told by @junkka83 that lOvShinyStar was approached by several teams but his parents forbade him from joining! Aren't Korean parents usually supportive of their children playing StarCraft or even becoming pros? No, thats a myth made by foreigners. There is an old old interview with Savior and Boxer where they talk about how progamers didn´t get much respect as a serious profession. I am sure its better than outside of Korea. Or maybe they are big fans of BW It's just rational thinking by parents. I would not let my son play 8 hours straight or move out to live with 15 others for the same purpose. I agree. I would be skeptical of their future. I would much rather my child get an education and a "real" job unless my son was Nestea. then I would totally let him game for 24 hours a day Your son wouldn't be Nestea if you don't let him practice. At the risk of derailing this into a parenting thread, I will say this: If your kid is really passionate about something, don't get in the way of it. The highest level of success comes from a high level of passion. You could force them to be a doctor/lawyer, but you can't force them to be passionate about being a doctor/lawyer. At best, they will be mediocre at it and happy about its perks. From a parenting stand point, yes it will be a success. But you should at least believe that whatever unorthodox thing a child wants to do, he/she can do it well and can do it better than everyone else. In most fields, that will give you just as much security and he/she will be much happier. Also, go w0n! Good point. But that may apply to sport or music, not playing games (yea only we nerds call it esport). Still, out of millions who play, there must be 400, 500 cases in which a)parents (hesitantly) support b)mature enough to decide on their own path c)doesnt give a damn about parents. Kid like Shinystar probably doenst fall into any of those category but if he keeps on trying and gets some success, he will achieve point a or else, point c lol Right. Ten years ago, people didn't even think (rightfully so) that you could make a living off of this, even if you are the best. Now there is absolutely no doubt that you could make a very good living if you are the best (in fact, very very very very good). Nestea has already hit 200kish USD in a year. Not to mention the investment into the future (although, quite risky) that the game will continue to grow. I mean, FlasH makes about what... 300-400k? We are just about half off in one year what BW managed to do in 10. No one knows what will happen in the future. If SC2 grows as much as BW or more, then your time investment will pay off very well. SC2 has the potential to harness the entire world as a market, rather than just Korea. The road was already paved by the brave men (and women) who helped BW grow. Back on the (off) topic, no one will ever be the best or competitive if he isn't passionate about it. Sometimes you have to believe in your kid, and realize that it is a risk/reward situation, just like everything else in life. flash is paid a guaranteed salary, whereas zergbong has just managed to win 3 tournaments, that's not even remotely comparable. sc2 has a long way to go in korea and until it's actually shown on TV or kespa takes over i think it's headed for a pretty quick death there, since gom's current model doesn't seem very sustainable. | ||
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1 - 1 Game 3 for Group G incoming! | ||
McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On September 04 2011 14:58 red4ce wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2011 14:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote: On September 04 2011 14:15 windsupernova wrote: On September 04 2011 14:12 blahz0r wrote: FXOWolf Wolf Schröder I'm told by @junkka83 that lOvShinyStar was approached by several teams but his parents forbade him from joining! Aren't Korean parents usually supportive of their children playing StarCraft or even becoming pros? No, thats a myth made by foreigners. never heard of this myth before :o It's definitely a myth. Almost every Starcraft interview where a progamer was asked how he got into progaming consists of the usual parents wanted me to study/had to play in pc bangs in secret/ran away from home to pursue my dream, etc. The idea that Koreans have it easier to become progamers has to do with infrastructure and peer pressure, not parental support. Im pretty sure Tyler of all people knows that and I don't think you understand what he is saying | ||
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