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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
August 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#9601
Hey guys, if you're so good at holding 1-1-1, go to Korea to stop Bomber or MVP 1-1-1. Koreans think it's imbalanced, and foreigners think it's balanced. Foreigners are so good at SC2.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#9602
On August 28 2011 11:19 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.

Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build


You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma.

I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken.

Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that.


Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective


lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly

Plz inform MC/Alicia etc.

Actually no, you're just wrong. You stall that long and you'll be dealing with a gigantic marine ball with no aoe. That's impossible to do.


ok well every terran should just 1-1-1 and have a 100% winrate in tvp if theres no way of defending it.. LOL wtf are u trying to get at?


well to be fair, the past month or so, when the koreans have been doing this 1base 1-1-1 timing... it has been 100% (can't recall it being held). They do it on favorable maps like XNC.
you live and you learn
Ravar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States447 Posts
August 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#9603
Is idra casting or is it just an interview?
Yeah bitch, magnets
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:27:14
August 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#9604
IdrA is kinda dumb........... no really dumb...

He was actually really ahead and didn't have enough banelings... come on...

User was temp banned for this post.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#9605
IdrA: marines are good.
Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9606
On August 28 2011 11:24 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:17 Lakai wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Alzadar wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 hysterial wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 VTPerfect wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand.


because after the 20 second warpgate nerf 2 rax is guarunteed to force a cancel on the nexus or kill it and then its basically free win for terran, search for why Koreans think the 1/1/1 is imbalanced thread.


I'm pretty sure 1 gate FE into 3 gates can hold any 2 rax.


Then your Robotics is too late and you die to cloak Banshees. The problem isn't really the 2rax or the 1/1/1, it's the inability to have the slightest clue what the Terran is doing until after you've committed to a tech path.

I can 1 gate FE into 3 gates and have an obs out at 7:45, problem?


I agree on your second point though.


A cloaked banshee can hit as early as the 7:00 mark, although that's with a pretty early 2nd gas, not as big a threat on 2-player maps where your probe will almost always scout it.


Well yeah, probe scout would see 2 gas. I don't think a terran can get cloaked banshees at 7mins only going 1 refinery until my probe dies/gets pushed out.
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darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9607
On August 28 2011 11:22 thewax wrote:
can anyone explain to me why incontrol is still #9 seed?

if i remember it right he got 0-5'd in pool play at the last 3 MLGs (including this event)


Because MLG format is dumb and points from long past tournaments dont decay + once you get in pool play I think you are guaranteed to keep getting points because you automatically finish top 25 or something even if you lose every game. That plus some players not returning = staying in pool play for way longer than you deserve. Its being changed though.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9608
On August 28 2011 11:22 thewax wrote:
can anyone explain to me why incontrol is still #9 seed?

if i remember it right he got 0-5'd in pool play at the last 3 MLGs (including this event)

mlg discussed it yesterday on state of the game, they're looking to change it so there's less memory based on previous performances. incontrol got 4th or something in dallas so he got like 800points. which is absurd considering people who come in from open bracket and place decently, like 25, or something get like sub 100. since he's in pool play he basically gets guaranteed 100points for showing up.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9609
Day9 looks like a fucking giant next to Idra LOL
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9610
Well, the point is Marines are better than mutas and a lot less expansive
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9611
Idra vs HuK is quite likely to happen. They just keep on facing each other all the time, lol.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9612
Idra obviously didn't read the thread heading, complaining about marine balance?
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:27:52
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9613
Idra ??? Its CuteFou......I learned about him from Artosis casting Your game. Before he was even in GSL.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9614
On August 28 2011 11:25 PartyBiscuit wrote:
At LEAST we can say that although we did end up with solid Korean top 4, Select only was dropped out of the 4th because he lost the head to head (and screw you guys, he's foreign TRAINED, so he's ours ).

Also, although Nada has done terribly in oversees competition, he and Tester were both held off at some level (and Rain was kept off the top too). So...not as bad a stomping ?

CoCa surprised though.

Coca isn't too surprising. He is probably top 3 zvp in Korea and his group has 3 toss and TvZ is definitely Rain's worst match up. Don't know about Trimaster but I assume he's not a code S level Terran so I didnt expect him to put up much of a fight. Coca is definitely a great player, but idk if he would be 10-0 in some of the other groups with more non protoss players. He has a 0% vZ win rate in GSL.
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EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9615
Machine, unprofessional asshole, is on the red stream!

User was temp banned for this post.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9616
Goddamn it IDRA. Who cares if you're SUPPOSED to lose. Play till the end.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 28 2011 02:27 GMT
#9617
On August 28 2011 11:27 Fleebenworth wrote:
Idra obviously didn't read the thread heading, complaining about marine balance?

haha you think idra cares about tl rules? ^^
noooob
Profile Joined September 2010
United States12 Posts
August 28 2011 02:28 GMT
#9618
On August 28 2011 11:24 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:21 noooob wrote:
Day9 opened the income tab breifly right before the kiwi/ puma engage. Puma had roughly 400 minerals per minute income and kiwi was up at the standard 800 for 1 base. No reason not to delay longer, i don't care how good marine dps is if you have that big of an income lead for long enough your army will get incrementally bigger than his.

It doesn't matter how much your army gets bigger because you'll just be making more zealots for his marines to chew through. They won't ever actually do anything to his marines. You HAVE to have aoe to stop a huge marine ball, and if you stall he'll end up with a huge one and you'll have no aoe.


The marines were un-upgraded and had no stim (and no upgrades for them were anywhere in sight) . Gateway units (including zealots) are a great counter to un-upgraded marines. To simply say that he will chew through them is incorrect.
Jnai
Profile Joined September 2010
United States442 Posts
August 28 2011 02:28 GMT
#9619
Idra gives such an insightful and lucid interview for someone so quickly tilted in game. So strange.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
August 28 2011 02:28 GMT
#9620
On August 28 2011 11:27 Cyanocyst wrote:
Idra ??? Its CuteFou......I learned about him from Artosis casting Your game.



Idra's known for underestimating his opponents and not doing research, not surprised he wouldn't know about noblesse
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