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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9561
On August 28 2011 11:16 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.

Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build


You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma.

I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken.

Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that.


Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective


lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly


There you have it. No one here can argue with TT1. Kiwi chose the map because he wanted to defend the 1-1-1. His execution failed though. That's all.



Have to add KiWi to the "more balls than brains" category with MC choosing something you have 10% chance against.
MC for president
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9562
On August 28 2011 11:23 Dante08 wrote:
Can we stop talking about that 111 please. If a fucking code s spot was on the line I would 111 the shit out of every protoss to get it.

also alot of money
guys, stop whine plz. Win is always a win.
No carpal tunnel no skill
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9563
Is there any more streaming of games guyss???
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9564
On August 28 2011 11:22 thewax wrote:
can anyone explain to me why incontrol is still #9 seed?

if i remember it right he got 0-5'd in pool play at the last 3 MLGs (including this event)

Because the MLG system seeding is screwed
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9565
On August 28 2011 11:24 TT1 wrote:
does anyone (high master league or gm player) want to play a few cgs with me so we can test both builds out?


Do you have an EU account?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9566
On August 28 2011 11:06 cENTRYZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote:
By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o



Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW.

It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.

NaDa?

NaDa wasn't FlaSh's practice partner, dummy.

+ Show Spoiler +
/sardonism
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9567
On August 28 2011 11:24 roronoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:22 thewax wrote:
can anyone explain to me why incontrol is still #9 seed?

if i remember it right he got 0-5'd in pool play at the last 3 MLGs (including this event)


that's what i want to know..

Because he got A LOT of points from Dallas and none of the Koreans who keep getting top 6 are coming back besides DRG
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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9568
On August 28 2011 11:21 s3183529 wrote:
Lol, foreingers in TL thread are so good at holding 1-1-1. Go to Korea and stop Bomber or MVP 1-1-1 then.

ikr, some people are so full of shit. like it's fine if you don't know what holds 2rax and what doesn't, how to scout terran, or what kiwi should've or could've done that game. it just means you're not as good as kiwi and or don't understand pvt as well as the pros and there's nothing wrong with that.

to be and arrogant prick and dispute all suggestions for the sake of being an ass is just fucking sad.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9569
On August 28 2011 11:17 Lakai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:14 Alzadar wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 hysterial wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 VTPerfect wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand.


because after the 20 second warpgate nerf 2 rax is guarunteed to force a cancel on the nexus or kill it and then its basically free win for terran, search for why Koreans think the 1/1/1 is imbalanced thread.


I'm pretty sure 1 gate FE into 3 gates can hold any 2 rax.


Then your Robotics is too late and you die to cloak Banshees. The problem isn't really the 2rax or the 1/1/1, it's the inability to have the slightest clue what the Terran is doing until after you've committed to a tech path.

I can 1 gate FE into 3 gates and have an obs out at 7:45, problem?


I agree on your second point though.


A cloaked banshee can hit as early as the 7:00 mark, although that's with a pretty early 2nd gas, not as big a threat on 2-player maps where your probe will almost always scout it.
I am the Town Medic.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45089 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9570
On August 28 2011 11:22 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:03 Techno wrote:
Void Ray all in is really good vs 1/1/1:

http://drop.sc/29691

http://drop.sc/29690


I was just going to mention this... Or what about a good 4 gate attack? Even though it would def. be a blind counter of sorts. I dunno. It just shows that the 1/1/1 is very versatile if the toss player does not aggro VR/4gate early on.

And i'm happy that Puma showcased the 1/1/1 again, because it was very exciting to see how Kiwi would respond. For those talking about y he walked into the siege tanks, it didn't matter if Kiwi attacked then or later because siege tanks is a main component of the 1/1/1 attack. He might have wanted to take Puma off his gaurd?

Eh, who knows. I am excited about how Kiwi did the mass stalkers/collusus push. THAT is awesome! If he had sprinkled a couple immortals into his game 2 mix he may have won that. Game 2 he def. should have won though! I mean, he was up the WHOLE game and made a blunder by allowing the drops as well as the gold base going up... But it's not as if Puma didn't make any mistakes... He supp. blocked himself the whole game it seemed. It def. shows that Puma is a great player, but I've new found respect for Kiwi because of his performance in the tourny so far. Before I'd hear a lot of praise for him, and now I know why.


4gate is all-in though... 1-1-1 isn't.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9571
whats up incontrol....last time 0:5 and this time again~~
TPW Mapmaking Team
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 03:22:29
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9572
Idra wtf. Wasn't expecting him to show up at the caster desk.
Love is more fun than hate.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9573
IdrA omg !
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9574
So how exactly did they tie break Group A? They didn't just do it by seeds did they? That's disgusting.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9575
IdrA commentating ?
Courstice
Profile Joined May 2011
United States473 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9576
IdrA!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:25:07
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9577
Idra casting!? fantastic!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#9578
IdrA commentary :D
Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
August 28 2011 02:25 GMT
#9579
sory to interrupt your guys balance whining but can anyone tell me wot happened to the CruncHer vs Demoslem match?
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 28 2011 02:25 GMT
#9580
Hate the game, don't hate players plz.
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