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1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance
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On August 28 2011 11:14 Galaxy613 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:10 Azarkon wrote:
What Kiwi did wrong was that he did not flank from two sides. I've rarely seen a well executed 1/1/1 defeated except by flanking. You need to split the marines and scvs from the tanks and go in from behind with zealots and/or immortals. This also minimizes tank splash.
The weakness of the 1/1/1 all-in is the same weakness that Protoss death balls have - they have to stay together, which makes it possible for you to out-maneuver them and flank, esp. given the siege/unsiege delay. Protoss can learn a few tips from Zergs in this respect. THIS! Less QQ more GG! I was VERY impressed with Kiwi, I can't wait for tomorrow. :D Though sadly, Slasher's hair isn't going anywhere.
wait what? flank with zealots and immortals from the back... then what goes in the front? lol if you split up tanks will have free reign and marines will just kite all day. tt1 has stated that it would be better for kiwi to stall and continue to outproduce the terran, but everone else seems to think marines would just grow too strong... who knows, tomorrow im sure there will be many more 111s and lets see if protoss's can actually COUNTER the push and not just barely survive
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On August 28 2011 11:16 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:15 tomatriedes wrote:On August 28 2011 11:12 KonohaFlash wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 sekritzzz wrote:On August 28 2011 11:05 Razuik wrote:On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way  (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore ....  what a baller Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ? Actually MVP said worst. He said people who use 1-1-1 should be disqualified from tournaments, period. At least MVP is a person who depends on his skill to carry him through. Much respect for MVP. No respect for puma. From MVP interview: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs)
A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh]Must be fun being wrong I guess. Actually you're wrong. In a different statement before that MVP did say anyone who uses it should be disqualified. So then he changed his mind after?
regardless it must be fun being wrong
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Hm, SeleCT has a better score overall but DongRaeGu gets the first spot cause he beat him (but fell to TricKsteR)? Seems a little off to me and it actually makes quite a difference. But oh well, MLG rules have always been a bit controversial.
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On August 28 2011 11:18 adiga wrote:
Is there going to be another game?
They said that there would be one more match, just not what that match would be.
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On August 28 2011 11:18 Grettin wrote:
Tyler wins G2 and ties up his CLR1 series with Ostojiy at 1-1
hell yeah lets go tyler!
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On August 28 2011 11:16 Razuik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:15 tomatriedes wrote:On August 28 2011 11:12 KonohaFlash wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 sekritzzz wrote:On August 28 2011 11:05 Razuik wrote:On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore .... what a baller Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ? Actually MVP said worst. He said people who use 1-1-1 should be disqualified from tournaments, period. At least MVP is a person who depends on his skill to carry him through. Much respect for MVP. No respect for puma. From MVP interview: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs)
A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh]Must be fun being wrong I guess. Actually you're wrong. In a different statement before that MVP did say anyone who uses it should be disqualified. I would much like to see said interview. As a lot of ppl in this thread completely talk out of their asses.
Like yourself?
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I found this interesting. So far the best player has been Coca (10-0) while the worst player has been Incontrol (0-10) who hasnt won a game.
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Oh man, I don't think CoCa has much of a chance vs. PuMa. And I think DRG > Bomber.
If that happens, the championship winner bracket finals are going to be HUGE. It will basically determine who gets the Code S spot (because even if they meet in the finals again... the extended series will likely be too much to overcome for such a close match).
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On August 28 2011 11:19 ShaneFeit wrote:
I found this interesting. So far the best player has been Coca (10-0) while the worst player has been Incontrol (0-10) who hasnt won a game.
Moonan is also 0-10
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On August 28 2011 11:13 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:12 KonohaFlash wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 sekritzzz wrote:On August 28 2011 11:05 Razuik wrote:On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore .... what a baller Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ? Actually MVP said worst. He said people who use 1-1-1 should be disqualified from tournaments, period. At least MVP is a person who depends on his skill to carry him through. Much respect for MVP. No respect for puma. From MVP interview: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs)
A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh]Must be fun being wrong I guess. He said that on his twitter, not in an interview. You're wrong.
he also said terran is weakest race
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On August 28 2011 11:16 SC2Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him. Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does. MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma. I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken. Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that. Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly Terran will always have an eco lead on 1base due to mules and marines dps grows to insane levels as the game goes on.
not with 15 scvs sitting in the middle of the map.. TRUST ME dude
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On August 28 2011 11:19 sjschmidt93 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:17 KnightGrinder wrote:On August 28 2011 11:12 LtLolburger wrote:On August 28 2011 11:10 hysterial wrote:On August 28 2011 11:04 VTPerfect wrote:On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand. because after the 20 second warpgate nerf 2 rax is guarunteed to force a cancel on the nexus or kill it and then its basically free win for terran, search for why Koreans think the 1/1/1 is imbalanced thread. I'm pretty sure 1 gate FE into 3 gates can hold any 2 rax. I'm pretty sure you are just plain wrong. Maybe on taldarim, but not on any other map. Huk did it vs MKP on XNC Ya and that was even 3 rax w CS not even a 2 rac
Thts cos 1Gate FE can hold 3rax. I thought we were talking about 2rax.
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idk why kiwikaki would pick xel naga when he knows puma is really good at using the 111. it was a pretty stupid move imo.
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On August 28 2011 11:14 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:14 Ghostfoot wrote:On August 28 2011 11:08 Inflicted_ wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 Scisyhp wrote:
If Puma thought the 1-1-1 would win him the game, then don't blame him for using it. Only an idiot would avoid doing something because it was (allegedly) OP. I definitely will not blame someone for trying to win, I'd much rather a player try to win than try to lose. IMMVP doesn't condone the usage of 1-1-1 all-in because he sees it as OP too. Is he an idiot? No, he just doesn't want to lose his fanbase. He has a moronic fanbase if they DONT want him to use the best builds possible.
How do you make more fans when you use the same debate-ably OP every TvP? I know that hasn't been his best match-up but hell, that's like saying do you want to just all-in your way to the top? If Mvp abused that build, I would honestly stop watching him so much.
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On August 28 2011 11:19 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:16 Yaotzin wrote:On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him. Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does. MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma. I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken. Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that. Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly Plz inform MC/Alicia etc. Actually no, you're just wrong. You stall that long and you'll be dealing with a gigantic marine ball with no aoe. That's impossible to do. ok then every terran should 1-1-1 and have a 100% winrate in tvp then if theres no way of defending it.. LOL wtf are u trying to get at?
Rofl puma probably does have a 100 percent winrate in tvp on XNC.
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On August 28 2011 11:19 ShaneFeit wrote:
I found this interesting. So far the best player has been Coca (10-0) while the worst player has been Incontrol (0-10) who hasnt won a game.
you forgot moonan. he has 0-10 too
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On August 28 2011 11:20 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:16 SC2Phoenix wrote:On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him. Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does. MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma. I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken. Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that. Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly Terran will always have an eco lead on 1base due to mules and marines dps grows to insane levels as the game goes on. not with 15 scvs sitting in the middle of the map.. TRUST ME dude
Some people won't understand... don't even bother TT1. Waste of time.
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