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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
Shaxe
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands590 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7861
Is there even a MLG thread in r/gaming?
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7862
On August 27 2011 11:42 Monocle wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:41 Chicane wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:40 Monocle wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:39 Tewks44 wrote:
woah Ret's english is amazing


Yeah it's hard to believe that he's Dutch. His accent is ridiculously good.


Isn't that relatively common in The Netherlands? I don't actually know, but I figured they put an emphasis on English there. Meh, either way yes it is good.


I actually have no idea lol you could be right.


Have you heard Grubby and especially Rotterdam speak english? They have a very distinct accent.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7863
On August 27 2011 11:42 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:40 Monocle wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:39 Tewks44 wrote:
woah Ret's english is amazing


Yeah it's hard to believe that he's Dutch. His accent is ridiculously good.


ret was raised on bnet


Then why isn't he talking like he has a stroke?
Love is more fun than hate.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7864
(T)NaDa <3 despite you playing sc2 bw fans will cheer for you lets go and take down ret !
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7865
I really can't get red stream to work I don't know why... blue works T_T!!!!!!!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#7866
On August 27 2011 11:42 LegendaryZ wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:40 Jinivus wrote:
lol...sc2 races are actually completely different...the only difference between human races is skin color hence why treating people different based on their races = bad.


Just wanted to throw out the fact that this is wrong. :/

yep, different health problems, some drugs work better on some races. people get silly in their political correctness
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7867
On August 27 2011 11:42 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:40 Monocle wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:39 Tewks44 wrote:
woah Ret's english is amazing


Yeah it's hard to believe that he's Dutch. His accent is ridiculously good.


ret was raised on bnet


we raised him like a pack of wolves.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7868
On August 27 2011 11:42 TooN wrote:
I feel like the casters don't follow the scene all too much. They just show up and cast. They seem to not know about the players information all too well.


Day9/Artosis know a shit-ton of players. They're not perfect, though.
r0x0r
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany293 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7869
11/11 gogo
"[...]and I think that many Korean players will go overseas to compete, because foreign fans have something korean fans don't have -- heart." - MMA
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7870
NaDa quit ur college and start winning !!!!
-Terran-
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7871
Sounds like there is almost no one watching SC2, damn shame but no suprise LoL is taking all of the viewers.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7872
Not nearly enough love for Nada, man, depressing.....
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7873
On August 27 2011 11:43 Jibba wrote:
I want Ret to win, but I'm said NaDa isn't getting more <3 from the crowd. He was so much better than Boxer was and for so much longer.


Yeah I was expecting at least an equal cheer to what Boxer got
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7874
On August 27 2011 11:35 Maghetti wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:26 Mauldo wrote:
Uhhh...are people legit saying it's bad to cheer for players from your country? Isn't it equivalent to cheering on the soccer team from your city (like Leeds people cheering for the Leeds soccer team) or people from Green Bay cheering on the Green Bay Packers in the NFL? The Detroit Lions lost 0-13 this last season in the NFL, and no one looked at the stadium full of fans from Detroit and said "Hey you xenophobic jackasses, cheer for the New England Patriots! They're the better team, they deserve your cheers!"


I would say that yeah ;o. I am against cheering for your local team just because it is a local team. It is illogical. Two team players could trade spots and suddenly the same players would be cheered against? Thats stupid. The only reasonable method of deciding who to cheer for is on an individual level. With the koreans, they have the better games because they are harder workers, and have the better skills. I am fine with cheering for Huk for example because he is a foreigner AND a code S level player when playing his best. Cheering for haypro over someone like bomber just makes my brain explode however.


This tells me two things about you.
A. You've never been to a sports event where anyone has given a fuck who wins. Visit a Major team sport event with your home town / home country participating and get a taste for it before going about it being illogical. It's called living a bit, instead of drying up in your own waste like an old fart.
B. Underdogs are always interesting to root for, because the happiness to see them winning and the sadness to see them losing is a very worthwhile emotional investment and gets you pumped to see the games and makes you feel more alive.

I feel bad for you, because with those arguments I can only assume you don't go out much. Really do visit a team sport event with a huge booming crowd and you'll get it.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7875
On August 27 2011 11:43 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:42 LegendaryZ wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:40 Jinivus wrote:
lol...sc2 races are actually completely different...the only difference between human races is skin color hence why treating people different based on their races = bad.


Just wanted to throw out the fact that this is wrong. :/

yep, different health problems, some drugs work better on some races. people get silly in their political correctness

and it's not a good or bad thing, it just is.

cheering for ret right now btw :D
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7876
On August 27 2011 11:44 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:42 TT1 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:40 Monocle wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:39 Tewks44 wrote:
woah Ret's english is amazing


Yeah it's hard to believe that he's Dutch. His accent is ridiculously good.


ret was raised on bnet


we raised him like a pack of wolves.

That jävla wolf.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7877
On August 27 2011 11:44 Turenne wrote:
Sounds like there is almost no one watching SC2, damn shame but no suprise LoL is taking all of the viewers.

Ehm...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7878
On August 27 2011 11:34 icarly wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:29 cENTRYZ wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:27 TT1 wrote:
is anyone else dissapointed that there are games going on which arnt being broadcasted? was hoping to watch more matchs

nope


you enjoy 30+ minutes of downtime in between games when they could easily just hop into anybody's game in the open bracket/ championship play?


I get sick of crap like this.

Yes, it would be nice if MLG had arranged their schedule a little bit better.

However, remind yourself of all of the following:

There has to be a game about to start in order for them to "jump in" to one. They can't enter a game that is in the middle of being played. They're in group stages right now, and we're waiting for 2 of the groups, so that means at maximum there are only 3 games going on right now. Very possible that all 3 are in the middle of something.

Supposing they can track two players down who are about to start a game, they then have to be at the right computers. MLG doesn't just have every single computer hooked up to all the equipment they need to stream in high def across the world. It's likely only the same two sets of computers hooked up to the two streams. It's much easier to rotate players than to rotate equipment.

However, that means that if and suppose they found guys who were about to start a match, and if and suppose they could move them to the red or blue stream computers, those players would then have to pack up their keyboards/mice/etc, and move them, and adjust all their SC2 settings and etc on the new machines. We know from previous sets just today that this process can take upwards of 15-20 minutes.

Those players would then have to stay at those computers until they're done playing, and you have no idea how long their game could take. This could conceivably screw with the play schedule that is announced beforehand. Say it's time for Huk to play Naniwa, the game that I am currently staying up to watch. Only when it's time for them to play, you have Idra playing Machine on those computers because they were put in as a fill in so we wouldn't have to wait and their game 1 was randomly 45 minutes long. Now I don't get to watch Huk and Naniwa on stream which isn't fair to me and the potential membership money that I bought, and it's not fair to Huk and Naniwa and their teams and sponsors who aren't getting the screentime that they were expecting because they were scheduled.


So tl;dr yes, it would be nice if there were less downtime. But it's not so easy as just "jumping into any open game"
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ninety-Three
Profile Joined November 2010
United States68 Posts
August 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#7879
On August 27 2011 11:41 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:38 Ninety-Three wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:32 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:28 CEPEHDREI wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:23 Quotidian wrote:
It's funny how people are tourning this into a race issue.. I don't root for players because of their skin color or their nationality (though I will be more interested in - say - swedish players, considering I'm norwegian) I don't have any problems with the better players winning.. it just seems to me that the western SC2 scene is becoming less and less vital the more Koreans show just how much better they are. As someone else pointed out, a tournament is inherently going to be less exciting when you know beforehand that the top finalists are going to be Korean? Why watch one-sided games with less skilled players when you can just go straight to the highest tier and watch the GSL? Why have western tournaments that will in the end only be lining the pockets of Korean players, when we can already observe the highest level of play elsewhere?


then go to small lans and watch sc2 there. or ask the foreign players to go to the small lans if theyre not good enough to compete at the biggest stage. I wanna see the best of the best battle it out and not some bad games by foreigners against each other.

and thus depressing western scene further? Do you know anything about economics and infant industries? To gain even leg or even an advantage its been long popular to put large trade tariffs or even embargo of foreign products (Koreans to tourney) in order to protect your own industry in infancy so latter it can compete evenly (US did it during their industrial revolution vs British and look how that worked out). Not letting Koreans compete now is a smart long term plan so we can have good games in 2-3 years


One problem. What you're saying isn't an accurate analogy. You get better by playing with people who are better than you.

You get better by knowing that there is money involved in getting better. Foreigner skill will naturaly rise if there is more money, cause people will practice harder and things like ladder will eventually (up to 5 years) get to Korean level.


Maybe if the prize money is drastically increased far down people will have more desire to win and thus practice harder, but what does that have to do with letting koreans play in the tournaments or not? The sum of prize money offered is completely unrelated to who decides to attend the tournaments... They're trying to increase that as much as they can regardless, which is in everyone's best interest, as far as I understand.
untiemyshoe
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand110 Posts
August 27 2011 02:45 GMT
#7880
On August 27 2011 11:43 mTw|NarutO wrote:
I really can't get red stream to work I don't know why... blue works T_T!!!!!!!

try the MLG page itself? or teevox.com ?
kek
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