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Shizzabamman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States71 Posts
August 24 2011 07:01 GMT
#201
Such a great day to watch the gsl!! I'm excited. HUK FIGHTING!!
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 24 2011 07:02 GMT
#202
This is probybly the greatest day of starcraft 2. Nestea vs Mvp! Spent this night on Nestea vs Mvp,Top,sC,Bomber and Mvp vs DRG and Dimaga. These guys are so incredible! After this we get my boy Huk vs Nada, a god of Terran. Puzzle vs Ryung is so interesting. 2 talented players who would probably come close to Mc and Mvp. July vs Hongun is not as interesting but still a nice match. So Hyped!!!!!!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 24 2011 07:08 GMT
#203
Wow today is so good, this side of the bracket is STACKED! Any one of these guys could win their match (except for Puzzle, he will get 1-1-1ed by Ryung. Nada has some selfrespect I hope to not do it to HuK).
Arschmade
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany19 Posts
August 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#204
NaDa fighting! I hope he humiliates HuK like a little kid.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 07:18:46
August 24 2011 07:15 GMT
#205
On August 24 2011 15:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 15:22 Montana[TK] wrote:
On August 24 2011 15:10 Tsubbi wrote:
I just rewatched the Clash of MVP vs Nestea in the GSL January Season and realized what joke maps they played on.

First was XelNaga, which nowadays is downvoted by each and every Zerg, at that time the downvote had to be saved for even worse maps. Nestea even won than game lol.

2nd map was close position on the backrock version of Shakuras (-> LOL)

3rd map was on Blistering Sands and MVP won with a 2 rax bunker rush, this was probably the most fair map in the series.

Because the last map was freaking Jungle Basin, cannot believe what kind of awful maps were used just a few months ago.

MVP won that series 3-1, but even the most die hard terran fan has to admit that this series couldn't determine the better player.

Today we will finally see the 2 best players in the world duke it out on relatively good maps (sadly it's not a bo5 or even bo7).


XNC is an ok map for ZvT, the rush distance is fairly long and there's plenty of counter attack paths.

JB is ofcourse a BS map, but NesTea had a fighting chance until he critically blundered and flew a ton of mutas over Mvp's marine ball.

Blistering is - according to IdrA - a Zerg favored map in ZvT, Shakuras 1.1 is a coinflip of either awesome Zerg map or awesome Terran map.

The maps favored Mvp, but he still was the better player in that series, NesTea often made unforced errors (such as the Muta mistake or making 4 spores against 1 banshee on Shakuras) and didn't have an answer to Mvp.

I expect Mvp to take it 2-0, mainly because he doesn't want to have to play on Tal'Darim. NesTea looked like a middle-rate Zerg in his last ZvT games against MMA, Ensnare, Happy and TOP, either losing or winning barely against opponents he should be considered a clear favorite against.


Just no....

I'll agree on Xel'naga but that's it.

I strongly doubt idra called Blistering favored for zerg. I distinctly remember him bitching about it. Hell, he lost that map narrowly to MVP himself in gsl3 because of the advantageous siege positions that terrans have over the gold on that map. Furthermore, this is one of the maps that was highly prone to the double bunker wall off. The reason we have a supply depot at the ramp now in the gsl and the reason nestea lost this one.

The fact that he even had a fighting chance against MVP on basin should be a testament to his skill. I doubt the mutas would have saved him anyway.

Yea maybe shakuras 1.1 was a coin flip, and it landed in MVP's favor with those positions.

Finally, do you even watch the gsl? He 2-0'd ensnare with mass infestors, the games were not even close. Against Happy, the game was closer than it needed to be only because nestea got too overzealous. Top played super cheesy, and it even looked like nestea would come back after losing almost everything on bel'shir. Funny thing is, he actually DID come back after losing a hatchery and a ton of drones in the next game. MMA outplayed him admittedly :/



Yeah I watch GSL LOL

IdrA often picked Blistering against Terrans early in BoX because he liked it ZvT and surprised me when he explained why on SotG (The Terran being slightly helpless against Ling/Muta styles once Z gets to 3base). You even saw IdrA act on what he said by rushing to 3base on Ling/Speedbane on that map against Mvp and getting the crap abused out of him by Mvp's sieged tanks (like he should be).

NesTea said in an interview that he played Infestors against Ensnare because he felt so helpless. Sorry but NesTea who is heralded the God of Zerg feeling helpless coming up to a match against Ensnare, whose sole accomplishment is pretty much an all-kill in Beta using Reapers, is pretty ridiculous. Yes NesTea is humble, but in reality he shouldn't even have to practice or think about BOs in order to slap a Terran of Ensnare's caliber down. Ensnare played plain wrong against the Infestor style and opened himself up to get overrun, instead of emphasizing drops & expansions.

Also TOP didn't play super cheesy LOL
I urge you to take your bias-hat off and try and look at games objectively. TOP opened with a simple hellion into banshee harass-heavy into expand BO and NesTea had huge trouble holding it off. Even Line, who TOP faced then had more success against that build, maybe NesTea should check out the Dual Sight game in order to learn how to hold it ... I mean walling against Hellions with a ling WTF?

NesTea said afterwards that he didn't get any sleep the night before, but combined with his huge troubles agains Terran (83% of his losses come from Terran), that surely wasn't the only reason.

Edit: Also NesTea was never coming back on Bel'Shir, I was actually completely floored when I saw that he couldn't hold a simple bunker rush.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
azr
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway144 Posts
August 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#206
On August 24 2011 05:34 MrCon wrote:
Casted by Wolf/DOA/Moletrap combo.


I was excited as hell when I saw todays lineup, and I assumed that it would be Tastosis since it was Code S. Well fuck me, was I wrong. It's coming to the point where I think I might actually stop buying GSL tickets. My wallet is the only way I can make any difference, no matter how insignificant. But I do not wish to continue supporting what I consider to be a fucking awful caster anymore, particularly when he is ruining my experience with the GSLs. Will skip todays matches either way.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
August 24 2011 07:20 GMT
#207
Ugh is this really going to be casted by Wolf/DOA/Moletrap? But these are awesome Code S matches... They are cool as casters and all but I really don't like them at ALL. Like knives to my ears ~_~
Hope NesTea NaDa Puzzle and July take it, though I wouldn't mind seeing HongUn get through ^_^
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 24 2011 07:21 GMT
#208
Today is going to be amazing.

I hope all the P win. Especially HuK.
lalala
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 24 2011 07:21 GMT
#209
On August 24 2011 16:15 Montana[TK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 15:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 24 2011 15:22 Montana[TK] wrote:
On August 24 2011 15:10 Tsubbi wrote:
I just rewatched the Clash of MVP vs Nestea in the GSL January Season and realized what joke maps they played on.

First was XelNaga, which nowadays is downvoted by each and every Zerg, at that time the downvote had to be saved for even worse maps. Nestea even won than game lol.

2nd map was close position on the backrock version of Shakuras (-> LOL)

3rd map was on Blistering Sands and MVP won with a 2 rax bunker rush, this was probably the most fair map in the series.

Because the last map was freaking Jungle Basin, cannot believe what kind of awful maps were used just a few months ago.

MVP won that series 3-1, but even the most die hard terran fan has to admit that this series couldn't determine the better player.

Today we will finally see the 2 best players in the world duke it out on relatively good maps (sadly it's not a bo5 or even bo7).


XNC is an ok map for ZvT, the rush distance is fairly long and there's plenty of counter attack paths.

JB is ofcourse a BS map, but NesTea had a fighting chance until he critically blundered and flew a ton of mutas over Mvp's marine ball.

Blistering is - according to IdrA - a Zerg favored map in ZvT, Shakuras 1.1 is a coinflip of either awesome Zerg map or awesome Terran map.

The maps favored Mvp, but he still was the better player in that series, NesTea often made unforced errors (such as the Muta mistake or making 4 spores against 1 banshee on Shakuras) and didn't have an answer to Mvp.

I expect Mvp to take it 2-0, mainly because he doesn't want to have to play on Tal'Darim. NesTea looked like a middle-rate Zerg in his last ZvT games against MMA, Ensnare, Happy and TOP, either losing or winning barely against opponents he should be considered a clear favorite against.


Just no....

I'll agree on Xel'naga but that's it.

I strongly doubt idra called Blistering favored for zerg. I distinctly remember him bitching about it. Hell, he lost that map narrowly to MVP himself in gsl3 because of the advantageous siege positions that terrans have over the gold on that map. Furthermore, this is one of the maps that was highly prone to the double bunker wall off. The reason we have a supply depot at the ramp now in the gsl and the reason nestea lost this one.

The fact that he even had a fighting chance against MVP on basin should be a testament to his skill. I doubt the mutas would have saved him anyway.

Yea maybe shakuras 1.1 was a coin flip, and it landed in MVP's favor with those positions.

Finally, do you even watch the gsl? He 2-0'd ensnare with mass infestors, the games were not even close. Against Happy, the game was closer than it needed to be only because nestea got too overzealous. Top played super cheesy, and it even looked like nestea would come back after losing almost everything on bel'shir. Funny thing is, he actually DID come back after losing a hatchery and a ton of drones in the next game. MMA outplayed him admittedly :/



Yeah I watch GSL LOL

IdrA often picked Blistering against Terrans early in BoX because he liked it ZvT and surprised me when he explained why on SotG (The Terran being slightly helpless against Ling/Muta styles once Z gets to 3base). You even saw IdrA act on what he said by rushing to 3base on Ling/Speedbane on that map against Mvp and getting the crap abused out of him by Mvp's sieged tanks (like he should be).

NesTea said in an interview that he played Infestors against Ensnare because he felt so helpless. Sorry but NesTea who is heralded the God of Zerg feeling helpless coming up to a match against Ensnare, whose sole accomplishment is pretty much an all-kill in Beta using Reapers, is pretty ridiculous. Yes NesTea is humble, but in reality he shouldn't even have to practice or think about BOs in order to slap a Terran of Ensnare's caliber down. Ensnare played plain wrong against the Infestor style and opened himself up to get overrun, instead of emphasizing drops & expansions.

Also TOP didn't play super cheesy LOL
I urge you to take your bias-hat off and try and look at games objectively. TOP opened with a simple hellion into banshee harass-heavy into expand BO and NesTea had huge trouble holding it off. Even Line, who TOP faced then had more success against that build, maybe NesTea should check out the Dual Sight game in order to learn how to hold it ... I mean walling against Hellions with a ling WTF?

NesTea said afterwards that he didn't get any sleep the night before, but combined with his huge troubles agains Terran (83% of his losses come from Terran), that surely wasn't the only reason.

Edit: Also NesTea was never coming back on Bel'Shir, I was actually completely floored when I saw that he couldn't hold a simple bunker rush.


Also NesTea will probably 2-0 Mvp just to spite me, but it certainly doesn't look like it, should one look upon the results leading up to this match. Mvp looked very strong when he didn't do stupid mech all-ins against DRG.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
August 24 2011 07:23 GMT
#210
Finally a triple caster combo, I figured it would only be a matter of time until they did this, since they have had three commentators on the Korean stream since the beginning.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Arschmade
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany19 Posts
August 24 2011 07:27 GMT
#211
On August 24 2011 16:23 CortoMontez wrote:
Finally a triple caster combo.


No! DoA/Moletrap or DoA/Wolf.
Sting
Profile Joined May 2003
Serbia76 Posts
August 24 2011 07:27 GMT
#212
I look forward for todays matches, and have only one thing to say about them:

Oh shi...
Resurrection : Life sux and then you die. And then, life sux again...
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
August 24 2011 07:27 GMT
#213
On August 24 2011 16:15 Montana[TK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 15:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 24 2011 15:22 Montana[TK] wrote:
On August 24 2011 15:10 Tsubbi wrote:
I just rewatched the Clash of MVP vs Nestea in the GSL January Season and realized what joke maps they played on.

First was XelNaga, which nowadays is downvoted by each and every Zerg, at that time the downvote had to be saved for even worse maps. Nestea even won than game lol.

2nd map was close position on the backrock version of Shakuras (-> LOL)

3rd map was on Blistering Sands and MVP won with a 2 rax bunker rush, this was probably the most fair map in the series.

Because the last map was freaking Jungle Basin, cannot believe what kind of awful maps were used just a few months ago.

MVP won that series 3-1, but even the most die hard terran fan has to admit that this series couldn't determine the better player.

Today we will finally see the 2 best players in the world duke it out on relatively good maps (sadly it's not a bo5 or even bo7).


XNC is an ok map for ZvT, the rush distance is fairly long and there's plenty of counter attack paths.

JB is ofcourse a BS map, but NesTea had a fighting chance until he critically blundered and flew a ton of mutas over Mvp's marine ball.

Blistering is - according to IdrA - a Zerg favored map in ZvT, Shakuras 1.1 is a coinflip of either awesome Zerg map or awesome Terran map.

The maps favored Mvp, but he still was the better player in that series, NesTea often made unforced errors (such as the Muta mistake or making 4 spores against 1 banshee on Shakuras) and didn't have an answer to Mvp.

I expect Mvp to take it 2-0, mainly because he doesn't want to have to play on Tal'Darim. NesTea looked like a middle-rate Zerg in his last ZvT games against MMA, Ensnare, Happy and TOP, either losing or winning barely against opponents he should be considered a clear favorite against.


Just no....

I'll agree on Xel'naga but that's it.

I strongly doubt idra called Blistering favored for zerg. I distinctly remember him bitching about it. Hell, he lost that map narrowly to MVP himself in gsl3 because of the advantageous siege positions that terrans have over the gold on that map. Furthermore, this is one of the maps that was highly prone to the double bunker wall off. The reason we have a supply depot at the ramp now in the gsl and the reason nestea lost this one.

The fact that he even had a fighting chance against MVP on basin should be a testament to his skill. I doubt the mutas would have saved him anyway.

Yea maybe shakuras 1.1 was a coin flip, and it landed in MVP's favor with those positions.

Finally, do you even watch the gsl? He 2-0'd ensnare with mass infestors, the games were not even close. Against Happy, the game was closer than it needed to be only because nestea got too overzealous. Top played super cheesy, and it even looked like nestea would come back after losing almost everything on bel'shir. Funny thing is, he actually DID come back after losing a hatchery and a ton of drones in the next game. MMA outplayed him admittedly :/



Yeah I watch GSL LOL

IdrA often picked Blistering against Terrans early in BoX because he liked it ZvT and surprised me when he explained why on SotG (The Terran being slightly helpless against Ling/Muta styles once Z gets to 3base). You even saw IdrA act on what he said by rushing to 3base on Ling/Speedbane on that map against Mvp and getting the crap abused out of him by Mvp's sieged tanks (like he should be).

NesTea said in an interview that he played Infestors against Ensnare because he felt so helpless. Sorry but NesTea who is heralded the God of Zerg feeling helpless coming up to a match against Ensnare, whose sole accomplishment is pretty much an all-kill in Beta using Reapers, is pretty ridiculous. Yes NesTea is humble, but in reality he shouldn't even have to practice or think about BOs in order to slap a Terran of Ensnare's caliber down. Ensnare played plain wrong against the Infestor style and opened himself up to get overrun, instead of emphasizing drops & expansions.

Also TOP didn't play super cheesy LOL
I urge you to take your bias-hat off and try and look at games objectively. TOP opened with a simple hellion into banshee harass-heavy into expand BO and NesTea had huge trouble holding it off. Even Line, who TOP faced then had more success against that build, maybe NesTea should check out the Dual Sight game in order to learn how to hold it ... I mean walling against Hellions with a ling WTF?

NesTea said afterwards that he didn't get any sleep the night before, but combined with his huge troubles agains Terran (83% of his losses come from Terran), that surely wasn't the only reason.

Edit: Also NesTea was never coming back on Bel'Shir, I was actually completely floored when I saw that he couldn't hold a simple bunker rush.

Top did not play super cheesy. But, a thing proving Nestea is so good is this: after losing a Hatch, a ton of drones, and building a ton of lings he keeps going. Against a lesser Terran he would win. He did manage to win on Crossfire with godly play after pumping 6 spores and losing a ton of drones. This is the best proof of his strength. Nobody else defeated such a strong player with being 20-30 supply behind. Not Mc,Mvp,Bomber,MMA. I can not even remember a similiar game from Jaedong or Savior, Bisu or NalRa, Flash or IloveOoV. Mvp is strong and I think he is close to Nestea but these who think Nestea is bad vsT are fools.
Exsonic
Profile Joined June 2011
China124 Posts
August 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#214
so sick, today's match
NesTea>DongReaGu≈Losira
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#215
Why are we even discussing the last MVP vs. NesTea series? It was played so long ago it's irrelevant now. What's relevant is MVP's current TvZ (which is terrifying, seeing as how he simply just roflstomped DRG into the ground) and NesTea's current ZvT (which is scary, but nowhere near amazing, especially if the Terran makes a raven ... sorry, NesTea, but relying solely on baneling mines to pull you through a game is not an indication of skill).

Since it's a teamkill, I expect some truly weird shenanigans and mindgames to take place. They're both top-caliber players, and in a BO3, anything can happen. (Though I imagine if NesTea wins, people will start proclaiming him the first bonjwa of SC2, even if he wins by using two baneling busts.) Pulling for MVP myself, since I think he's overdue for another deep run in the GSL, and with Bomber out, MVP could probably take first.
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
August 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#216
who ever wins in nestea vs mvp will win the championship
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 24 2011 07:35 GMT
#217
I predict Nestea beating MVP 2-1 with really solid ling/bling/muta
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iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
August 24 2011 07:36 GMT
#218
also just checked wolf's twitter. looks like doa/wolf tonight.
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
lacioo
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia64 Posts
August 24 2011 07:36 GMT
#219
OMG
todays games, OMG
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
August 24 2011 07:39 GMT
#220
I can't wait for these games! The only downside is MVP or Nestea going out. I hope Tastosis will cast too

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