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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2101
On August 23 2011 21:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 20:58 clusen wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:55 mr_tolkien wrote:
His fight management and decision making was TERRIBLE in this game. Upgrades and macro purely won him the game, through 3/3 rines continuously streaming in.

How was his decision making terrible? He made like 1 mistake there

Sacrificing siege tanks in the first push where he stayed there 1h was a mistake.
Not moving his rines and keeping 6 tanks that far in the back during the 2nd push (with Thor) was a mistake.
Losing his 4th (no planetary, no ground defence ?) was a mistake.

Seems quite sloppy to me, but he had a very good marines production with mass upgrades and that made him plow through Zenio who was very bad on upgrading and defending his bases against small marines forces.


This is the problem with your logic though.

You make it seem like Zenio should have won that match, which would have been an unbelievable comeback, as he was ridiculously far behind after each of TOP's pushes. TOP had his 3rd down as Zenio's 3rd and fourth were just starting. He made the decision to sacrifice those tanks because if he were to unsiege and leave, they would die anyway. He kept up production that entire time and just chose to bear down on Zenio to stop him from teching and expanding all over the place. He played with a zerg mindset and dominated him.

No PF when he's microing drops in his 4th and 5th while pushing into his main with another army? OK
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
RockStarCrft
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 12:07:52
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2102
On August 23 2011 21:03 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:02 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:01 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:00 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on Terminus Re

In the north position is Zenio

While in the right location is Top


1:40

Barracks on the way for top


2:10

Hatch first for Zenio

Top getting gas


2:40

Pool for zenio going down

Orbital for Top


3:40

Gas taken for Zenio

Factory + Reactor for top


4:30

Expansion on the way for top

5:00

Ling speed starting for zenio


7:00

Top poking at the front with hellions while constructing his third base

Baneling nest on the way for Zenio


8:30

Third base on the way for zenio

Stim and bio +1 for Top


9:40

Siege tech on the way for top along with a starport

Lair for Zenio


Just shut up already?


WTF? What are trying to say???

Edit: Thank you mod!
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2103
On August 23 2011 21:05 Existential wrote:
Is the stream lagging severely for everyone? Or is it just for me...?


Did briefly. Now fine.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2104
On August 23 2011 21:03 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:02 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:01 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:00 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on Terminus Re

In the north position is Zenio

While in the right location is Top


1:40

Barracks on the way for top


2:10

Hatch first for Zenio

Top getting gas


2:40

Pool for zenio going down

Orbital for Top


3:40

Gas taken for Zenio

Factory + Reactor for top


4:30

Expansion on the way for top

5:00

Ling speed starting for zenio


7:00

Top poking at the front with hellions while constructing his third base

Baneling nest on the way for Zenio


8:30

Third base on the way for zenio

Stim and bio +1 for Top


9:40

Siege tech on the way for top along with a starport

Lair for Zenio


Just shut up already?

User was temp banned for this post.


People like you are why we cant have nice things.

Oh thank you mod.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2105
On August 23 2011 21:05 aXa wrote:
You don't understand the concept of trolling andd being a non-zerg hater do you ?

You don't understand the concept of Live Reporting?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2106
On August 23 2011 21:05 aXa wrote:
You don't understand the concept of trolling andd being a non-zerg hater do you ?

I love this lock close to your name !
The legend of Darien lives on
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2107
On August 23 2011 21:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 20:58 clusen wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:55 mr_tolkien wrote:
His fight management and decision making was TERRIBLE in this game. Upgrades and macro purely won him the game, through 3/3 rines continuously streaming in.

How was his decision making terrible? He made like 1 mistake there

Sacrificing siege tanks in the first push where he stayed there 1h was a mistake.
Not moving his rines and keeping 6 tanks that far in the back during the 2nd push (with Thor) was a mistake.
Losing his 4th (no planetary, no ground defence ?) was a mistake.

Seems quite sloppy to me, but he had a very good marines production with mass upgrades and that made him plow through Zenio who was very bad on upgrading and defending his bases against small marines forces. I wasn't meaning to whine with my post.


He have to make decision to sack his 4th like that and stay in position and counterattack.

If he come back every time Muta harass his base, he will never be out of his base and let Z macro up.

Use some brain please. Do not use your bronze knownledge here
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 12:07:23
August 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#2108
--Wrong section, ignore this post--
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2109
14min hive from Zenio, new school
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 12:07:52
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2110
On August 23 2011 21:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 20:58 clusen wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:55 mr_tolkien wrote:
His fight management and decision making was TERRIBLE in this game. Upgrades and macro purely won him the game, through 3/3 rines continuously streaming in.

How was his decision making terrible? He made like 1 mistake there

Sacrificing siege tanks in the first push where he stayed there 1h was a mistake.
Not moving his rines and keeping 6 tanks that far in the back during the 2nd push (with Thor) was a mistake.
Losing his 4th (no planetary, no ground defence ?) was a mistake.

Seems quite sloppy to me, but he had a very good marines production with mass upgrades and that made him plow through Zenio who was very bad on upgrading and defending his bases against small marines forces.

Only the first thing you mentioned was a real mistake, he overextended there. The second thing is fight management, which was not perfect in that game and nobody will disagree, and losing his fourth was no mistake in decisionmaking...A PF would not have finished until Zenio's counter arrived anyway and it gave TOP the chance to move forward, and you saw how that worked out :p

He cant put forces there, he needs to keep them in his base in case of a counter there or use them to reinforce his push. Losing your production is much worse than losing a fourth base when you are still kinda even in economy, which he was.
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2111
damn, where is the second evo chamber for upgrades, i cant watch this.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2112
On August 23 2011 21:05 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:03 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:02 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:01 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:00 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:59 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:58 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on Terminus Re

In the north position is Zenio

While in the right location is Top


1:40

Barracks on the way for top


2:10

Hatch first for Zenio

Top getting gas


2:40

Pool for zenio going down

Orbital for Top


3:40

Gas taken for Zenio

Factory + Reactor for top


4:30

Expansion on the way for top

5:00

Ling speed starting for zenio


7:00

Top poking at the front with hellions while constructing his third base

Baneling nest on the way for Zenio


8:30

Third base on the way for zenio

Stim and bio +1 for Top


9:40

Siege tech on the way for top along with a starport

Lair for Zenio


12:00

Baneling speed and melee +1 for Zenio

Both players making a fourth base as top gets combat shield and bio armour +1



15:00

Hive on the way for zenio with air +1 and melee +2

Top moving onto the creep slowly while getting a fifth base
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2113
For fucks sake let's not bash the people that contribute to the thread please.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
medic_ro
Profile Joined July 2011
Romania105 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#2114
--- Nuked ---
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#2115
GS from Zenio
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#2116
what are the upgrades?
Its grack
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
August 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#2117
I really wish Zenio would pay more attention to his Mutalisks, he's just thrown away so many the last couple of games.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#2118
Zenio's zerglings are going to melt against because he has 0 armor =/

Blardy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
August 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#2119
Thats a crazy amount of lings
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 23 2011 12:09 GMT
#2120
On August 23 2011 21:08 bokeevboke wrote:
what are the upgrades?


2-2 I think
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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