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Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4861
Toss always have more noobs than other races, and they like to whine about balance.

User was warned for this post
Liam-
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4862
neat whining contest in here going on :>
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4863
I'm so glad MC lost. This "Needed" to happen.
Its grack
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:41:56
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4864
On August 22 2011 02:40 jazzyjazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:39 siri wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Housemd wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
I quit to game. The best protoss in the world loses 3-0 to a mid korean terran Goddammit.


You're fucking kidding me right?


code s vs not even code A?
are you fucking kiddind right?

+ Show Spoiler +

I think MC just dropped into updown this season =(

Lol, put spoilers if you're gonna talk about other tourneys results.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4865
This is a nice example of meta game retardation we're seeing right now. Not only here but in GSL as well. A lot of terrans rediscovering that there's not much protoss can do against marines+tanks+raven+banshee+scv mixes from one base.

It's pretty sad and I hope we can move past it like we did before. I'm just afrad it's going to come back again and again until a patch makes it less effective.

It's not _supposed_ to be this effective in a good game. It's just not. Protoss will need to retard back almost 1 year and just do stupid one-base defenses and maybe this will go away and we can have good games.
Hello=)
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4866
i missed this event because of dota 2 ~~ , any epic games i should check out later?
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4867
On August 22 2011 02:37 taLbuk wrote:
Remember when zergs were crying 2 months ago about protoss being unbeatable and than they changed up their strategy and playstyle?

Protoss will do the same ,so instead of QQ'ing on forums hopefully they put their effort into finding a solution, but I'm sure the top toss are trying, granted MC just lost, look what Mana did to PuMa in group stage.


Wanna give us infestors?

Sorry, I can't think of a way to change our metagame. I mean, the Sage (and to a lesser extent, Kiwikaki) style might catch on, but once it does, it will be figured out quickly; it has many vulnerabilities.
They're fools. You should eat them.
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4868
this thread reminds me of how much i love the mods on tl <3
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:42:04
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4869
On August 22 2011 02:41 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:40 jazzyjazz wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:39 siri wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Housemd wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:34 koolaid1990 wrote:
I quit to game. The best protoss in the world loses 3-0 to a mid korean terran Goddammit.


You're fucking kidding me right?


code s vs not even code A?
are you fucking kiddind right?


I think MC just dropped into updown this season =(

Lol, put spoilers if you're gonna talk about other tourneys results.


That happened 2 weeks ago?
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
August 21 2011 17:41 GMT
#4870
Oh well, so many people criticizing the LoL finals but at least they were entertaining despite any technical issues. This was just sad
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4871
On August 22 2011 02:40 WickedBit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:35 Fig wrote:
wow so sad when the best toss player in the world can't beat 1/1/1. At least there is bound to be a patch soon Always look for the silver lining.


Im sorry but blizz wont nerf terran. I think we need a new morrow who will just 1/1/1 every game with toss till blizz nerf it or buff toss. I have no idea why all terrans dont do it every game. Is it a morality thing ? Clearly here is a build when decently executed will beat all tosses in the world and there is no good response and doesnt require toss to be 100 times better than terran to hold.
PuMA cheesed his way to final win and people are saying he is good ? I saw nothing in this game from Puma that any terran in the world wont be capable off. He is just a random code B scrub who has trouble in korea since he sucks at TvT since everyone is a terran there. Let me see him beet MVP or bomber and I'll agree he is good. All he did is come out of korea to own non koreans .

In the hand of a competent terran, it's fucking hard, toss should 4 gate or VR allin more
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4872
On August 22 2011 02:41 bokeevboke wrote:
I'm so glad MC lost. This "Needed" to happen.


For what purpose?
/commercial
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4873
On August 22 2011 02:40 Girondelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:38 mordk wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:37 Girondelle wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Seohce wrote:
Snipe the Raven => win?


Yes, he had 1 Dt and Puma had no orbital


PDD prevents raven snipe, marines in such numbers pretty much ravage stalkers


Yes, but still it was the plan


A deathtrap more like.
Gargara
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania150 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4874
On August 22 2011 02:40 ct2299 wrote:
Anyone wonder why PDD doesn't even have to be researched?
Oh and it's awesome how marauders are the only unit in the game to have a damage modifier that DOUBLES their damage vs armored.

MMMG needs stalkers, zealots, sentry, archon, high templars, warp prism, AND a tech switch to colo. sounds about right. /s



at leaste you don't need voidrays
Wherewolf
Profile Joined December 2010
United States353 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4875
On August 22 2011 02:39 Figgy wrote:
This is ridiculous.... Protoss needs their warpgate research changed back and insta-high templar storms back to deal with Zerg and Terran now. There just seems to be nothing they can do.

Uhh I'm not sure that would be a good idea. PvZ's okay atm at least, PvT I don't think that would help all that much.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:44:38
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4876
On August 22 2011 02:36 Caphe wrote:
Well, PvT metagame right now is just Terran favored. Protoss just needs sometime to cope with it. But still I think these 3 games can go either way really.
In the last game, If MC didn't leave with his stalker he can stall the Terran army even more and build up some unit to stand a head to head fight.

I wonder why every unit is weaker than it's counterpart

Storm does 40 DPS EMP does 100
Stim Mauruars do 30 DPS stalkers do 14 DPS
2 tanks do over 25 DPS a more expensive collusi do 18
Vikings own all protoss air
on own the line Protoss is just weaker.

Best way to win is outplay flanks and tricks never direct engagement. That was MC's mistake.
MC for president
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:42:19
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4877
On August 22 2011 02:39 priestnoob wrote:
OK, my stupid high Gold Toss analysis of the game.

Game 1: MC brilliantly defended the first push. I believe that at that point it should've been GG, but Mules are just that good. Bad engagement in the 2nd fight.

Game 2: if MC wanted to go no upgrades, he had to be more aggressive. He wasn't and timed the warp prism uppgrade at the worst time possible and paid the price.

Game 3: MC didn't play so good at all. Bad engagements, etc etc. Still good micro, but not good enough.

Don't get me wrong, MC is my favorite player. He just didn't play at MC-level.

Sums it up, you did good =)
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4878
Standard QQ... people just can't let a player lose who plays the same race as them without complaining.
Aratho
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland16 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4879
Anyone know the song name now ?:D
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
August 21 2011 17:42 GMT
#4880
On August 22 2011 02:41 xMalicious wrote:
So because he is MC, if he loses, Protoss is weak and needs a buff? lol, kids these days........


nothing to do with the match up but in general the 111 build against toss seems too effective.
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