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SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
August 19 2011 11:08 GMT
#841
On August 19 2011 20:06 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Just such a fail, why did he build that engi bay on low ground? made no sense. even 1 attack upgrade would have made that an easy win

+1 attack into easy win? are you serious?
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Br1ghT
Profile Joined February 2010
53 Posts
August 19 2011 11:08 GMT
#842
Terrans should make more Wall offs if Protoss plays this Zealot Archon style
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
August 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#843
On August 19 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:05 EvilSky wrote:
Is there a big difference between 0-2 and 0-1 vs 0-0 ? I didnt think there would be but it looked super gross...


Reduces the damage of marines by 20%. That's huge.


That + gaurdian shield means that after shields, marines are doing 2 damage a shot instead of 6, too. Marines just can't kill chargelots in that situation.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#844
On August 19 2011 20:08 lotny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:04 Corrik wrote:
On August 19 2011 20:01 Corrik wrote:
That was the window for Kas due to Socke jumping straight to HT.

Socke should take the game now with his superior tech.


Quoting myself just to point out that Socke was ahead, and you guys should have realized it! Kas had that window to win before he would get rolled (when he attacked into Socke's expo).


Yeah, congrats, you should become a caster.


I would but I don't want to be spammed hate in LR threads! = ) jk
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#845
On August 19 2011 20:08 Cognizance wrote:
Hey guys, what is happening in this thread? I just got here from the GSL.

It's a great series between Socke and Kas, Socke is up 2-1 in this Bo5.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#846
On August 19 2011 20:05 EvilSky wrote:
Is there a big difference between 0-2 and 0-1 vs 0-0 ? I didnt think there would be but it looked super gross...


+ guardian shield marines basically shoot the zealots for zero damage gogogo SOCKE
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 11:10:00
August 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#847
On August 19 2011 20:08 Cognizance wrote:
Hey guys, what is happening in this thread? I just got here from the GSL.

Socke 2-1 Kas atm (BO5) Socke just won with a timing attack that looked unwinnable, and yet he did, causing everyone to wtf

pretty much that
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 19 2011 11:10 GMT
#848
On August 19 2011 20:08 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:07 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 19 2011 20:05 Haydin wrote:
As much as I am rooting for socke I have to say kas is playing really well. This series has been just great from a spectator point of view.

I hope this is the start of a more consistent kas. His A game is just top notch.

I disagree, Kas is strugling with emp placements and keeps being feedbacked on everything. also only starts microing when starts losing battle instead of from the beginning


What do you want? Socke is spreading his HT out so EMPs can't hit more than 1 at a time. Thus, Kas has to use snipe on HTs instead of EMPs.

What exactly more could he do?

How about starting to micro that battle right away and moving his army to the ramp where zealots would have just died from such a choke
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 19 2011 11:10 GMT
#849
The 2-0 mass zealot + archon timing is quite common on the EU ladder.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1012 Posts
August 19 2011 11:10 GMT
#850
Nice socke

fucking amazing read dude.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
August 19 2011 11:10 GMT
#851
Game 4, (Socke vs Kas, Score 2-1), Shattered Temple,
Socke spawns at the 9 o'clock, Kas at 3 o'clock.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 19 2011 11:11 GMT
#852
On August 19 2011 20:10 Bagi wrote:
The 2-0 mass zealot + archon timing is quite common on the EU ladder.


Just that it's completely, like 100% different when you start with VR....
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 19 2011 11:11 GMT
#853
On August 19 2011 20:08 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:06 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Just such a fail, why did he build that engi bay on low ground? made no sense. even 1 attack upgrade would have made that an easy win

+1 attack into easy win? are you serious?

well marines would do 50% more damage (3 vs 2) so lots would melt way faster (bunkers live longer and such)
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 19 2011 11:11 GMT
#854
On August 19 2011 20:06 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:06 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Just such a fail, why did he build that engi bay on low ground? made no sense. even 1 attack upgrade would have made that an easy win


for turrets when he was the first vr

He was hit by VRs and zealots in the main base, plenty of reasons to build it one the low ground.
bella.test
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway24 Posts
August 19 2011 11:11 GMT
#855
On August 19 2011 20:09 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 19 2011 20:05 EvilSky wrote:
Is there a big difference between 0-2 and 0-1 vs 0-0 ? I didnt think there would be but it looked super gross...


Reduces the damage of marines by 20%. That's huge.


That + gaurdian shield means that after shields, marines are doing 2 damage a shot instead of 6, too. Marines just can't kill chargelots in that situation.

Zealots have one armor to start with, so +2 armor gives them three, and guardian shield takes off two damage, which means marines actually do one damage a hit to zealots at that point (after they go through their plasma shields).
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 19 2011 11:11 GMT
#856
Betting for 1-1-1 allin from Kas this game, really surprised haven't seen it from him this far as he uses it a lot when streaming >.>
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
August 19 2011 11:12 GMT
#857
On August 19 2011 20:08 Cognizance wrote:
Hey guys, what is happening in this thread? I just got here from the GSL.


Socke vs Kas. So far, great TvPs. First game Socke gets greedy on taldarim and looses to an all-in after going nexus first. Second two games were great macro games. Socke's micro has been fantastic, and has been doing lots of cool stuff like warp prisms, forward cannons, extra templar for feedback, and early VR harass. Last game there was also a VR with 29 kills and 3 hull hp left from the start of the game that was totally awesome.
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Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 19 2011 11:12 GMT
#858
On August 19 2011 20:10 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 20:08 Corrik wrote:
On August 19 2011 20:07 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 19 2011 20:05 Haydin wrote:
As much as I am rooting for socke I have to say kas is playing really well. This series has been just great from a spectator point of view.

I hope this is the start of a more consistent kas. His A game is just top notch.

I disagree, Kas is strugling with emp placements and keeps being feedbacked on everything. also only starts microing when starts losing battle instead of from the beginning


What do you want? Socke is spreading his HT out so EMPs can't hit more than 1 at a time. Thus, Kas has to use snipe on HTs instead of EMPs.

What exactly more could he do?

How about starting to micro that battle right away and moving his army to the ramp where zealots would have just died from such a choke


I don't know. I think Socke is winning from superior strategies, not micro. Game 2 was the Warp Prism into the base tactic. Game 3 was the Void Ray early pressure decimating Kas's tech.

I respect your opinion though.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 19 2011 11:12 GMT
#859
On August 19 2011 20:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
Betting for 1-1-1 allin from Kas this game, really surprised haven't seen it from him this far as he uses it a lot when streaming >.>


And he throws down a cc...props
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
canastaa
Profile Joined August 2011
26 Posts
August 19 2011 11:12 GMT
#860
IT was the feedbacks on medivacs that made this g3 attack possible.
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