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On August 16 2011 14:24 Clog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:22 HuKPOWA wrote:On August 16 2011 14:22 Velicia wrote:On August 16 2011 14:20 vict1019 wrote: Camera flipped o.O, anyway love seeing the 6gate all in fail :D. Bomber tricking him out saying he was going for an ultra long game. Please explain to me what part of that game was 6 gate all in. Same...kinda confused how having 2 bases still making probes...and going for another expansion was an all in... I won't throw around the word all in, but he delayed tech and his 3rd for that attack he did. If it didn't do damage (which it didnt) HuK was in deep shit
That's not exactly how it works. HuK was not allin because he was even with Bomber. As in, Bomber doesn't have a third either. He just stayed aggressive way too long. Notice how the game ended on 2 base vs 2 base?
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"Hes not making a stalker..."
No shit. His core wasen't finished. Casters never pay attetion to this shit.
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dt must be killer's favorite unit ^^
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On August 16 2011 14:24 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:23 Shalaiyn wrote: Wasnt SangHo's Artosis' room mate...? Killer = SangHo
derp, thought so but wasn't sure, anyways, I ment Tester.
FUCKING KOREANS CHANGING THEIR NAMES ARGH
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Huk is better than Violet and Killer imo, whoever who wins he has a good chance
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On August 16 2011 14:23 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:20 Cyrak wrote: It is really, really hard not to rage about balance after watching that game. How about getting good enough to understand mistakes made? Huk was to slow on tech. No Colossus, no Templars. Not sure about his forge upgrades (as I did not pay attention to that). To heavy on Stalkers. Seriously? I saw like 8-10+ Stalkers. Thats 125 minerals, and 50 gas per stalker. Zealots are much more effective against a pure MMM army (as they are also cheaper). Overextending on bunkers after he thought he had the army lead. He could have expanded or sat back and tech'ed more and probably ended up ahead. Point being, yes, Huk is human and does make mistakes.
The problem is that bomber WAY overextended himself in that fight. Got his entire army cut off and killed in little pieces. Do you know what happens to zerg when they attack like that? You can counter and win. Same goes for Protoss. Terran throws down 4 bunkers, and they are the strongest turtle race, there's no arguing with that, in addition to the cost effectiveness of bio against gateway if they have stim makes it really, really hard to punish a terran who overextends and loses his entire army.
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On August 16 2011 14:27 tony4 wrote: Seriously how can protoss roflstomp a terran push like that and the terran can still hold the counter attack something is clearly wrong.
The toss should be able to tech up for free after that...no need to herp derp counter with just gateway units.
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Aw, Killer with the DTs again. Should've gone stargate, Violet has an awful record against those :D
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I'm curious as to why Violet didn't take the early third.
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I apologize for showing up late. Where is my Tastosis if someone doesn't mind telling me?
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On August 16 2011 14:27 tony4 wrote: Seriously how can protoss roflstomp a terran push like that and the terran can still hold the counter attack something is clearly wrong.
What if terran crushed a 2 base 5 gate attack, and then rushed into 6 cannons and some units?
Kind of the same thing.
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"Could make DTs.... no evo chamber in sight". Meanwhile a spore and +1 melee is being researched right then and there...
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On August 16 2011 14:27 JKira wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:24 Clog wrote:On August 16 2011 14:22 HuKPOWA wrote:On August 16 2011 14:22 Velicia wrote:On August 16 2011 14:20 vict1019 wrote: Camera flipped o.O, anyway love seeing the 6gate all in fail :D. Bomber tricking him out saying he was going for an ultra long game. Please explain to me what part of that game was 6 gate all in. Same...kinda confused how having 2 bases still making probes...and going for another expansion was an all in... I won't throw around the word all in, but he delayed tech and his 3rd for that attack he did. If it didn't do damage (which it didnt) HuK was in deep shit That's not exactly how it works. HuK was not allin because he was even with Bomber. As in, Bomber doesn't have a third either. He just stayed aggressive way too long. Notice how the game ended on 2 base vs 2 base?
Notice how when Bomber did *his* attack after defending HuK's it did a lot of damage?
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On August 16 2011 14:27 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:27 tony4 wrote: Seriously how can protoss roflstomp a terran push like that and the terran can still hold the counter attack something is clearly wrong. The toss should be able to tech up for free after that...no need to herp derp counter with just gateway units.
Easier to just cry imba.
Huk cut probes at 45ish and was chronoing gateways. Fail attack trading sentries and immortals for bunkers and people expected Huk to win?
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wow nice reaction from violet
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So, I heard violet got bored and decided to dt 2 games in a row...
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On August 16 2011 14:27 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 14:23 SniXSniPe wrote:On August 16 2011 14:20 Cyrak wrote: It is really, really hard not to rage about balance after watching that game. How about getting good enough to understand mistakes made? Huk was to slow on tech. No Colossus, no Templars. Not sure about his forge upgrades (as I did not pay attention to that). To heavy on Stalkers. Seriously? I saw like 8-10+ Stalkers. Thats 125 minerals, and 50 gas per stalker. Zealots are much more effective against a pure MMM army (as they are also cheaper). Overextending on bunkers after he thought he had the army lead. He could have expanded or sat back and tech'ed more and probably ended up ahead. Point being, yes, Huk is human and does make mistakes. The problem is that bomber WAY overextended himself in that fight. Got his entire army cut off and killed in little pieces. Do you know what happens to zerg when they attack like that? You can counter and win. Same goes for Protoss. Terran throws down 4 bunkers, and they are the strongest turtle race, there's no arguing with that, in addition to the cost effectiveness of bio against gateway if they have stim makes it really, really hard to punish a terran who overextends and loses his entire army.
if it's hard to counter, then maybe toss players can play smarter and take a quick third and tech up instead of trying to do what can't be done? herp
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DT are so bad early game against Z
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On August 16 2011 14:28 Sprungjeezy wrote: I apologize for showing up late. Where is my Tastosis if someone doesn't mind telling me? dunno but i think they'll definitely be on later (on the regular 2am PST slot).
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Why are Protoss still doing DT opening's vs Zerg, most if not all of them have figured out the timing and just lay spores to counter the DT's.
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