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MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
August 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#3781
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:07:47
August 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#3782
On August 16 2011 22:03 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:02 Belisarius wrote:
Cloak is actually really, really good on ghosts. I don't know why more people don't get that earlier.


I often get it before energy upgrade if Protoss is going heavy templar. Most forget to make enough observer


That and the fact that a rine ball with scans just utterly melts them. Plus blanket EMPs often bring them out as a side effect.

You'd almost need like 4 or 5 behind your army all hotkeyed to be brought up as they're killed.

Reconsidering, I'm actually really, really glad most Terrans don't cloak ghosts.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#3783
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.


Not me. I hated him before it became the cool thing to do
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
August 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#3784
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.


its not that we hate him. It is just POOR play all around
itstheTB
Profile Joined August 2011
61 Posts
August 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#3785
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
August 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#3786
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.


Tons of people always was just artosis, who tends to like obscure players like tester/clide/killer for no actual reason ;p.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#3787
On August 16 2011 22:05 paradox_ wrote:
I wonder if trickster will be able to stay in code A if he continues playing like this


Staying in Code A seems super brutal. Not going to say that it is worse than staying in Code S, but the second you have an unlucky draw, you can be so so very dead.

Nothing I have seen in the last months would have me believe that Tester would beat the top Code A players in a Bo3. Then again, he might be able to stay Code S with a lucky bracket draw, though it does not seem too likely at this point.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#3788
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.


I also didn't come out of the whole TSL thing looking too hot. He has been slacking off and hurting his team, which generally doesn't help the popularity along
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
August 16 2011 13:08 GMT
#3789
Yes! Puzzle and Ryung making it through :D
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 16 2011 13:08 GMT
#3790
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.

He was awesome in the beta and slowly went downhill. Loyal fans (including myself) tried to cling on, hoping that he would do better next GSL. Then he left TSL with FD because he didn't want to practice as much as TSL were, and he even lied about details regarding the whole TSL-S2Con ordeal.
lalala
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
August 16 2011 13:08 GMT
#3791
Trickster was overhyped like crazy since the beginning of SC2 and now people are starting to realize he's just mediocre.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 16 2011 13:09 GMT
#3792
Really would like to see some more 2 base colossus mana style. I just don't think Protoss players can defeat ghosts with this zealot heavy style.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:10:26
August 16 2011 13:09 GMT
#3793
On August 16 2011 22:06 itstheTB wrote:
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball

perhaps templars could use more range on their storms. I think a patch can fix Protoss. vs Terrans.
Perhaps make cannons cheaper, or more powerful, more damage resistant. make warp prisms cheaper are easier access in early game..
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
August 16 2011 13:10 GMT
#3794
On August 16 2011 22:06 MVega wrote:
Why does everyone dislike Trickster now? What did I miss? I remember when tons of people were talking about how great he is.

It's not really hate, it's just that he's lazy and his play doesn't deserve Code S status.
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
August 16 2011 13:10 GMT
#3795
On August 16 2011 22:07 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:05 paradox_ wrote:
I wonder if trickster will be able to stay in code A if he continues playing like this


Staying in Code A seems super brutal. Not going to say that it is worse than staying in Code S, but the second you have an unlucky draw, you can be so so very dead.

Nothing I have seen in the last months would have me believe that Tester would beat the top Code A players in a Bo3. Then again, he might be able to stay Code S with a lucky bracket draw, though it does not seem too likely at this point.


Fortunately(?) for Tester, the Promotion/Relegation matches are multiple Best of 1s, so if he gets lucky (he'll need to be, with what he's shown today) he might be able to make it back, but with the quality of players coming up from Code A, I fear for him . . .
HauntYou
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada68 Posts
August 16 2011 13:10 GMT
#3796
On August 16 2011 22:04 chatuka wrote:
practicing 6 hours a day vs players practicing 10-12 hourse a day. Who's going to win I wonder trickster.. so disapointing.


Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

This isn't the sort of game where you can get by on pure talent alone without putting a tremendous amount of work into it. Until Tester (and by extension, FruitDealer) get to the point where they want it bad enough that they're willing to give their all, they simply don't deserve to go any further than these other players who clearly desire it more.

Which sucks, cause FruitDealer and Tester were some of my favourite players during the open season era, but their work ethic shows through their results. I want to hope that they'll turn it around, but I'm having trouble believing they ever will. Reaching the top again won't be as easy now that they've fallen off so much and everyone else has become that much better.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:11:49
August 16 2011 13:11 GMT
#3797
On August 16 2011 22:09 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:06 itstheTB wrote:
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball

perhaps templars could use more range on their storms. I think a patch can fix Protoss. vs Terrans.
Perhaps make cannons cheaper, or more powerful, more damage resistant. make warp prisms cheaper are easier access in early game..

lol

cannon rushing would become a problem again
warp prism's cost is not the problem, it's the fact that it's on the robotics facility AND the fact that its upgrade is on a fucking 200/200 building designed for colossi
lalala
canastaa
Profile Joined August 2011
26 Posts
August 16 2011 13:12 GMT
#3798
On August 16 2011 22:06 itstheTB wrote:
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball

Also collosus without range but with force field is underestimated. it really melts marines and makes them stack when they inevitably try to focus it down.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 16 2011 13:12 GMT
#3799
On August 16 2011 22:09 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:06 itstheTB wrote:
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball

perhaps templars could use more range on their storms. I think a patch can fix Protoss. vs Terrans.
Perhaps make cannons cheaper, or more powerful, more damage resistant. make warp prisms cheaper are easier access in early game..


You really wanna save patching as a last resort and then only patch as small as possible.
twitch.tv/medrea
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
August 16 2011 13:13 GMT
#3800
On August 16 2011 22:09 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:06 itstheTB wrote:
I think the protosses thus far are making the mistake of teching to Colossus too late. their storms are not hitting the M/M/M all though TricksteRs storms were a lot better than Puzzles. don't know, not a high level protoss player but I feel like they should Colossus earlier to melt the M/M/M bio ball

perhaps templars could use more range on their storms. I think a patch can fix Protoss. vs Terrans.
Perhaps make cannons cheaper, or more powerful, more damage resistant. make warp prisms cheaper are easier access in early game..

Or, change nothing and play better. Seriously, you think the current form of PvT has been ultimately figured out and everyone plays perfectly? No? No need to change anything. Just because Protoss are having a tough time at the moment does not mean things need to be altered. Not just yet. You're too giddy.
hi. big fan.
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