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On July 25 2011 19:08 snifit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:07 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:06 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:05 snifit wrote: NesTea vs. HongUn Game 3 on Crossfire SENestea spawns in the south, HongUn in the north. Pool first for Nestea. HongUn doesn't FFE this time! 4:00 Nestea takes his natural. HongUn harvesting from both his geysers. 5:20 Nestea's natural finishes. HongUn doing a 3 gate expand.
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HongUn sends his zealot out for some reason and Nestea puts on a clinic in ling micro to take it out. Third down for Nestea, HongUn's natural is done.
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Nestea what are u doing man. U play Zerg, A-move those units or get out!
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On July 25 2011 19:09 Dubo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:06 nojok wrote: People who thinks that broodlords just shot broodlings must think colossi are a good counter so. . . . Yeah don't listen to this bullshit with air attacks from broodlords, broodlords just shot broodlings. I hope you're trolling. Not only are you wrong but you don't know the difference between shoot and shot, you just sound dumb.
I'm sure your French is flawless.
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On July 25 2011 19:08 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:02 TheKefka wrote: Ill tell you even what Hongun should have done the last 2 games because the ignorance i see in this thread is baffling. When you scout a NO GAS pool expand from zerg you crono out STALKERS and run to the zerg forcing soo many freeking lings that he will be forced to stop droning and he wont be able to take a third.Nestea is getting ling speed at 10 freaking minutes into the game.Think about that. if you went gateway first, then yes, that works. Zerg can hold it with queen/drones or a spinecrawler, but it is certainly annoying. If you went forge first, then no, it does not work. Right, but I feel like FOrge FE into Stargate is a mistake, cause that's so little aggression for so long, especially since most Zergs hold it off perfectly now so it does no damage for the cost of an extra queen or so and spores, whereas Forge FE into gateways at least force more than 4 lings out.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:07 TheKefka wrote:On July 25 2011 19:06 Heavenly wrote:On July 25 2011 19:02 TheKefka wrote: Ill tell you even what Hongun should have done the last 2 games because the ignorance i see in this thread is baffling. When you scout a NO GAS pool expand from zerg you crono out STALKERS and run to the zerg forcing soo many freeking lings that he will be forced to stop droning and he wont be able to take a third.That's your first step.Thats the point when you need to start harassing a zerg and not after he manages to get to 80 drones off 3 base because no matter how many he looses hes gonna remake them in a instant.Nestea is getting ling speed at 10 freaking minutes into the game.Think about that. Yes, you should harass with all of those stalkers you have made after forge fast expand. Oh wait, you have none, and Nestea probably knows all the timings of when he can hold off any stakler pressure. 2 words.6 gate.Try it. That's not really a harass >_>
That's a thing you need to start doing because the way these zergs play cocky these days is making me fume.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: Microing lings vs a zealot? that's not super micro
Alright Negative Nancy. Take it in context. Nestea did average micro perfectly WHILE macroing perfectly. Unless you have three hands that's kinda impressive.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 VashTS wrote: I do that with my Lings. Where's my recognition?! =( Seriously... that wasn't god mode or anything. click hurt ling. move it back.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 hysterial wrote: How is that good micro lol.. Every zerg in masters does that..
They all lose 2 lings also, the fact that he only lost 1 is what's impressive, while spreading creep and macroing perfectly :D
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On July 25 2011 19:08 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:04 dennistoo wrote:That's your excuse? MC may have played bad but how can you not expect the most basic pvp build that he himself used a lot? I'm pretty sure that the two best PvZ ratio (in GSL games not korean weeklys or tournaments like that) are MC and HongUn. Come on, PvP is such a coinflip mirror match up. And you will never expect, 3x 4gate in a BO5. You cannot determine MC's skills by just looking at his recently loses. Lol then why did MC have 90% winrate if it's coinflip? Why do NesTea have 90% winrate in ZvZ if it's coinflip like Morrow who get 4-0ed by Nerchio zvz said it was? HongUn is good even if you don't think he is.
or IdrA who loses 0-6 to Zenio, some coinflip eh.
Anyone naming matchups "coinflip" are friggin retarded, and its just an excuse as to why their favorite player lost (in idras case) or in this case; a way to diminish HongUn's accomplishments to get away from the real issues.
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This is so fascinating to me trying to learn ZvP :o Both Nestea and Losira take a reaaalllyyyyyyyy late lair.
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On July 25 2011 19:10 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:09 Ribbon wrote: That was really good micro. He saved a ling! Nestea He cares. I don't know what it was about that, but it made me spit toast all over my keyboard.
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He's gonna go blink stalkers.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:07 Awesomeness wrote: Just realized nestea hasn't lost a map in this tournament yet. Remember that thread where someone argued that there could be no player dominating in sc2? yeah... i'm not sure you're aware of how dominant some pros were in bw. Making it to the Code S Semis without dropping a map is 100% dominance. I'm not sure you're aware of how Statistics work. He's one game from making the finals without dropping a map.
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Broodlords projectile attack is huge, comparable to a guardian attack. The broodlings is what messes up us terrans, but the initial damage is what destroys everything.
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On July 25 2011 19:10 snifit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:08 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:07 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:06 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:05 snifit wrote: NesTea vs. HongUn Game 3 on Crossfire SENestea spawns in the south, HongUn in the north. Pool first for Nestea. HongUn doesn't FFE this time! 4:00 Nestea takes his natural. HongUn harvesting from both his geysers. 5:20 Nestea's natural finishes. HongUn doing a 3 gate expand. 7:20 HongUn sends his zealot out for some reason and Nestea puts on a clinic in ling micro to take it out. Third down for Nestea, HongUn's natural is done.
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Lair morphing for Nestea. Twilight council for HongUn, scouts Nestea's third with hallucination.
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Nestea's lair just now finished.
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On July 25 2011 19:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:On July 25 2011 19:07 Awesomeness wrote: Just realized nestea hasn't lost a map in this tournament yet. Remember that thread where someone argued that there could be no player dominating in sc2? yeah... i'm not sure you're aware of how dominant some pros were in bw. Making it to the Code S Semis without dropping a map is 100% dominance. I'm not sure you're aware of how Statistics work. He's one game from making the finals without dropping a map. Again!
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On July 25 2011 19:10 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:08 Poopi wrote:On July 25 2011 19:04 dennistoo wrote:That's your excuse? MC may have played bad but how can you not expect the most basic pvp build that he himself used a lot? I'm pretty sure that the two best PvZ ratio (in GSL games not korean weeklys or tournaments like that) are MC and HongUn. Come on, PvP is such a coinflip mirror match up. And you will never expect, 3x 4gate in a BO5. You cannot determine MC's skills by just looking at his recently loses. Lol then why did MC have 90% winrate if it's coinflip? Why do NesTea have 90% winrate in ZvZ if it's coinflip like Morrow who get 4-0ed by Nerchio zvz said it was? HongUn is good even if you don't think he is. or IdrA who loses 0-6 to Zenio, some coinflip eh. Anyone naming matchups "coinflip" are friggin retarded, and its just an excuse as to why their favorite player lost (in idras case) or in this case; a way to diminish HongUn's accomplishments to get away from the real issues.
When people say coin flip it only applies when the players are of equal skill level.
Take that however you like.
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Make huge number of spine crawler. Have a 20 food lead.
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