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On July 25 2011 19:04 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:00 LeaD wrote:On July 25 2011 18:54 Teton wrote:
Soorry but honghun played so badly, he didnt basically nothing ,letting nestea dronning like crazy.
He just stayed in his base and lost Nestea is doing amazing scouting and is playing it safe until he CAN drone up. Hongun is playing very well, his force fields and unit compositions haven't been bad at all either. Where he's lacking is his strategies and this continual need to use stargates that Nestea is countering easily. The other problem is that Nestea is just doing great creating more time for himself to tech and drone up, and he builds good amounts of stationary defense, unlike most Zergs that seem to be giving away a piece of their soul to build an extra spore or spine crawler. MC wouldn't be playing this any better, he hasn't gone very far in the GSL or beaten his fellow Koreans in a tournament ever since 6 gate timing pushes have been somewhat countered. Not to say he's playing bad all of a sudden or his late game is awful, but he's just not dominating the way he used too and he hasn't won a tournament in a while. Nestea is just playing amazing and Hongun needs to stop with the Stargate tech (which MC does a lot against Zerg as well) and try for a different direction in tech and units. Building 4lings at the beginning=playing it safe. I agree with you, he's droning up when he can, which is all the time because Hongun refuses to attack until they're both at 100+ supply, which is not how you beat a zerg.
No, he's building the lings for good scouting, getting his expansion a little later and positioning his overlords properly. Hey guys, the counter to Zerg is to attack early and force him to make drones, it doesn't cost you anything and works perfectly every time! See, I can be a douche-bag too.
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United States97276 Posts
If you only listened to tasteless and artosis, you might forget hongun was playing this game. 90% of the commentary is about nestea, macro, and spinecrawlers. lol. Sorry Hongun. You're just so outmatched in play and in fanbase
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On July 25 2011 19:11 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:On July 25 2011 19:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:On July 25 2011 19:07 Awesomeness wrote:
Just realized nestea hasn't lost a map in this tournament yet. Remember that thread where someone argued that there could be no player dominating in sc2? yeah... i'm not sure you're aware of how dominant some pros were in bw. Making it to the Code S Semis without dropping a map is 100% dominance. I'm not sure you're aware of how Statistics work. He's one game from making the finals without dropping a map. Again!
I was going to say i thought someone had done it before, maybe NEstea? Or it couldve been like 1 loss or something idk.
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On July 25 2011 19:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:On July 25 2011 19:07 Awesomeness wrote:
Just realized nestea hasn't lost a map in this tournament yet. Remember that thread where someone argued that there could be no player dominating in sc2? yeah... i'm not sure you're aware of how dominant some pros were in bw. Making it to the Code S Semis without dropping a map is 100% dominance. I'm not sure you're aware of how Statistics work. He's one game from making the finals without dropping a map.
+ a 70% win rate in general, it is the same level of dominance of some in Brood War
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Nestea venture off to Hongun's base with slow roaches.
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On July 25 2011 19:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:09 VashTS wrote:
I do that with my Lings. Where's my recognition?! =( Seriously... that wasn't god mode or anything. click hurt ling. move it back.
2,4k post, and all of them are shitty. Good effort.
Hoping the next match will be more tense/longer, ZvZ finals ftw.
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On July 25 2011 19:04 Bayyne wrote:
So I know labeling someone bonjwa in SC2 right now is pretty dumb, since that title is for the elite of the elitist players dominating for a long period of time.
But my question is, let's say Nestea out right wins every remainder GSL this year. How much more does he need to win to be possibly given that label?
From my interpretation, being a bonjwa requires more than a commanding string of titles. There needs to be an aura of invincibility or absolute dominance - such that every loss is because of some stupid BO loss that was almost a comeback win, etc. There has to be a feeling of "feeding newbs to the lions" that accompanies that title of bonjwa imo.
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On July 25 2011 19:09 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:07 Awesomeness wrote:
Just realized nestea hasn't lost a map in this tournament yet. Remember that thread where someone argued that there could be no player dominating in sc2? yeah... i'm not sure you're aware of how dominant some pros were in bw.
not sure what this has to do with nestea dominating sc2
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On July 25 2011 19:10 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Microing lings vs a zealot? that's not super micro Alright Negative Nancy. Take it in context. Nestea did average micro perfectly WHILE macroing perfectly. Unless you have three hands that's kinda impressive.
No, I agree with Shell, Nestea should have made those zerglings dance as well. He's slacking off!
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lol Nestea wins this easily?
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not looking good for hongun
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On July 25 2011 19:11 snifit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:10 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:08 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:07 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:06 snifit wrote:On July 25 2011 19:05 snifit wrote: NesTea vs.  HongUn Game 3 on Crossfire SENestea spawns in the south, HongUn in the north. Pool first for Nestea. HongUn doesn't FFE this time! 4:00 Nestea takes his natural. HongUn harvesting from both his geysers. 5:20 Nestea's natural finishes. HongUn doing a 3 gate expand. 7:20 HongUn sends his zealot out for some reason and Nestea puts on a clinic in ling micro to take it out. Third down for Nestea, HongUn's natural is done. 9:00 Lair morphing for Nestea. Twilight council for HongUn, scouts Nestea's third with hallucination.
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HongUn pressures Nestea's third (defended by spines) with blink stalkers. Nestea responds with roaches to HongUn's natural.
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I believe Nestea is going mutas and basetrade
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Nestea making mutas with +1.
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This series wasn't even enjoyable to watch.
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HongUn is quite screwed @_@
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Hm, HongUn basically killed himself.
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United States23455 Posts
Nestea finally destroys HongUn.
Poltimus will survive another season.
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That's why this map ain't so bad for zerg. You have to move so far to attack their 3rd that they can counter attack easy.
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