[VODs] TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #19 - Page 53

On July 17 2011 11:37 unit wrote:
why is the bracket link showing me tl open #18?

On July 17 2011 15:26 Strelok wrote:
I am very unhappy since i came only to demolish some koreans and got Goody. Loosing to Goody is worst feeling ever because you feel like you are better in every aspect of game and still loose. Sadly I have got huge problems against mechanical terran and in fact it's my only problem in 3 matchups for now.

goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural

On July 17 2011 15:26 Strelok wrote:
I am very unhappy since i came only to demolish some koreans and got Goody. Loosing to Goody is worst feeling ever because you feel like you are better in every aspect of game and still loose. Sadly I have got huge problems against mechanical terran and in fact it's my only problem in 3 matchups for now.

On July 17 2011 19:14 Atrimex wrote:
TLO failed in reading the game (even he had full view) and still bashing at goody. Picking at the energy of the orbital all the time, missing that goody (always low on vikings) needs scans like hell in a TvT, even he was only on two orbitals. TLO never admit that he was wrong with the 3rd cc, even this was the game breaking decission of goody. In the end TLO told us both players are so bad, goody in general and strelok because he lose against goody. That was a little bit too much.

On July 17 2011 19:36 ProxyKnoxy wrote:

They made a lot of mistakes in that game... and although it may have been a bit far TLO has always said he gets frustrated when people he watches makes mistakes because as a player he wants to play it himself. (probably didn't explain that well)

On July 17 2011 20:02 Atrimex wrote:


What kind of mistakes are you talking about? Name them and we can talk about it. TLO make it look like that they made lot of mistakes, but in the end they dont make more mistakes as generally are made in pro matches. TLO let them look like noobs and thats not ok, even TLO makes a lot mistakes in game prediction in this matches, that he better pick on himself.

On July 17 2011 20:30 Micket wrote:


Not dropping mules is a HUGE thing. Queuing up 4 scvs at the 3 minute mark is unheard of in the pro scene. Queing up 4 siege tanks on 1 factory is laughable. Even not balancing saturation on bases is painful to see. Don't give me the he need scan thing. Other Terrans seem to be perfectly fine without Vikings. You don't need 8 scans. These mistakes are mistakes only Goody makes. He gets supply blocked for minutes, builds 2 depots, gets supply blocked again, queues up more units. Just poor poor macro. Just because he wins, doesn't mean his macro is stellar in any way.

On July 17 2011 20:30 Micket wrote:


Not dropping mules is a HUGE thing. Queuing up 4 scvs at the 3 minute mark is unheard of in the pro scene. Queing up 4 siege tanks on 1 factory is laughable. Even not balancing saturation on bases is painful to see. Don't give me the he need scan thing. Other Terrans seem to be perfectly fine without Vikings. You don't need 8 scans. These mistakes are mistakes only Goody makes. He gets supply blocked for minutes, builds 2 depots, gets supply blocked again, queues up more units. Just poor poor macro. Just because he wins, doesn't mean his macro is stellar in any way.

On July 17 2011 20:30 Micket wrote:


Not dropping mules is a HUGE thing. Queuing up 4 scvs at the 3 minute mark is unheard of in the pro scene. Queing up 4 siege tanks on 1 factory is laughable. Even not balancing saturation on bases is painful to see. Don't give me the he need scan thing. Other Terrans seem to be perfectly fine without Vikings. You don't need 8 scans. These mistakes are mistakes only Goody makes. He gets supply blocked for minutes, builds 2 depots, gets supply blocked again, queues up more units. Just poor poor macro. Just because he wins, doesn't mean his macro is stellar in any way.

On July 17 2011 20:30 Micket wrote:


Not dropping mules is a HUGE thing. Queuing up 4 scvs at the 3 minute mark is unheard of in the pro scene. Queing up 4 siege tanks on 1 factory is laughable. Even not balancing saturation on bases is painful to see. Don't give me the he need scan thing. Other Terrans seem to be perfectly fine without Vikings. You don't need 8 scans. These mistakes are mistakes only Goody makes. He gets supply blocked for minutes, builds 2 depots, gets supply blocked again, queues up more units. Just poor poor macro. Just because he wins, doesn't mean his macro is stellar in any way.

On July 17 2011 16:49 Otolia wrote:

So what, Koreans are supposed to be SO FREAKING FAR AHEAD of foreigners right ? Furthermore, I am laughing at the 500ms ... That's a complete misconception of global internet connection. Any good servers in the west coast provides Japan under 200ms. So ... it doesn't takes 300 ms to get an answer in Korea.

You can always find excuses if you want to but there was at least one Code S player (CoCa) and he didn't won. International gaming is so made that you have to compete at night with high ping sometimes. If you don't prepare accordingly by training on NA servers then you are a joke of a progamer who is either too full of himself or arrogant. Either way, you get punished by people who actually care ...

On July 17 2011 16:49 Otolia wrote:

So what, Koreans are supposed to be SO FREAKING FAR AHEAD of foreigners right ? Furthermore, I am laughing at the 500ms ... That's a complete misconception of global internet connection. Any good servers in the west coast provides Japan under 200ms. So ... it doesn't takes 300 ms to get an answer in Korea.

You can always find excuses if you want to but there was at least one Code S player (CoCa) and he didn't won. International gaming is so made that you have to compete at night with high ping sometimes. If you don't prepare accordingly by training on NA servers then you are a joke of a progamer who is either too full of himself or arrogant. Either way, you get punished by people who actually care ...