On July 10 2011 12:37 Ramble wrote: I was away for the Puma/July match, how did the last two games look?
Xel'naga Puma did a lot of blue flame hellion harass (killed like 40 drones over the whole game) which forced July into a ton of roaches, which Puma probably predicted and made a ton of tanks and took the gold as his third. July maxed (I think) and figured he had to use his army so he suicided it against a ton of tanks and did almost no damage then GG'd.
Terminus Puma did a 2rax which July scouted but reacted improperly to and did a lot of damage. Puma followed it up with weird timing like slightly before stim finished with a ton of marines which July shut down with zerglings,Then Puma did a standardish marine/tank push which got shut down but did another one right after and won off that.
On July 10 2011 12:39 MonsieurGrimm wrote: needed to keep more blords as corruptors, cant assume the protoss won't make air (even though a lot of protoss are stupid, don't, and die)
...then you lose to a maxed ground army. He needed to scout the VR's, and that wasn't possible because the entire base was covered with cannons. I honestly don't know what Sen should have done there.
Not morph all of his corrupters to BLords. Half BLords, Half Corrupters would have done it.
I just dont get *why* he felt he needed that amount of BLs. He had infestors, so that limits blink play. Corruptors would've also helped fight the colossi, which would probably be the one thing that minimized the impact of the BLs.
On July 10 2011 12:40 jyLee wrote: There is no other Protoss player on the planet that could of come back from that game the way MC did.
No other Protoss can make 9 VR's and a-move? I mean, MC is amazing, but that comeback was just...
dont talk about the logistic of just making voids and a move. Its about being calm, with the right mind, with the right mechanics, and the game sense to do all that. A bronze can make 9 voids and A move.. but they arent in the stressful situation of one game of being knocked out.
On July 10 2011 12:40 jyLee wrote: There is no other Protoss player on the planet that could of come back from that game the way MC did.
No other Protoss can make 9 VR's and a-move? I mean, MC is amazing, but that comeback was just...
It was more than that. Few if any Protoss players would have thought of tech switching and massing VRs to hard counter BLs. Besides, it's Sen's fault for not only massing BLs without proper antiair but leaving them way out in the middle of the map without that antiair.
That's my point--in Sen's fault, not MC's skill.
Skill is measured in more than mechanics. MC's decision making is top-notch.
On July 10 2011 12:39 MonsieurGrimm wrote: needed to keep more blords as corruptors, cant assume the protoss won't make air (even though a lot of protoss are stupid, don't, and die)
...then you lose to a maxed ground army. He needed to scout the VR's, and that wasn't possible because the entire base was covered with cannons. I honestly don't know what Sen should have done there.
Not morph all of his corrupters to BLords. Half BLords, Half Corrupters would have done it.
I just dont get *why* he felt he needed that amount of BLs. He had infestors, so that limits blink play. Corruptors would've also helped fight the colossi, which would probably be the one thing that minimized the impact of the BLs.
also banelings. blink stalkers under the BL's to kill them? now you have no army.
On July 10 2011 12:40 jyLee wrote: There is no other Protoss player on the planet that could of come back from that game the way MC did.
Any Protoss player that decided to switch to void rays would've won that because Sen made too many brood lords.
Do you know that MC upgrade his air attack even before expanding the 4th base, before Sen even have a broodlord. He add 2 more stargates quite early before he was behind He prepared for the plan transittion already