EPTOn July 09 2011 21:35 Rici wrote:
who won the mc vs boxer match?
who won the mc vs boxer match?
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Look at the OP, everything is there... Sometimes you have to look to find something you want!
NASL Grand Finals Day 1 - Page 1076
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
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iaretehnoob
Sweden741 Posts
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Veno
United Kingdom16 Posts
- 2 hour delay before start unacceptable. Get out of bed earlier or set the start time later. - Test the projectors the night before. NASL clearly did not do any testing, as they were only setting up SC2 on the projectors whilst the stream was live. Unforseen broken projector in the morning? Have a back up (that was also tested). Have a back up for that back up. Very bad planning. Everything should have been good to go the night before, not whilst people are sat watching the stream waiting for SC2. - Get a decent sound engineer. For hours the sound from the left speaker / headphone was non-existent. The chat was blowing up for ages about how the left side needing boosting, audio needed total rebalance and the quality was terrible. I quit the stream for an hour or so, came back and it STILL was not fixed. Unacceptable. - The first observer. Oh my. No health bars, no selection of units. Some people said it was the smart cam, or some other dodgy setting. It was like somebody who has never heard of Starcraft 2 was controlling the observer. They were just trying in vain to follow the casters and were flicking around all over the place giving people headaches. - Delay between matches. Need I say anything on this? It was far too long. The tournament format was poor and we could have had way more matches than we actually saw. | ||
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Rici
Hungary11 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:38 Zanno wrote: i think you can find out if you look here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10178003 thanks, didnt know that, i am new here :D where can we watch the vods? i only saw the first 3 games then went to sleep | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:35 Rici wrote: who won the mc vs boxer match? + Show Spoiler + MC. But game 2 was awesome, i thought boxer was dead multiple times and he still managed to kill several armies of MC with fewer units | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:40 Rici wrote: thanks, didnt know that, i am new here :D where can we watch the vods? i only saw the first 3 games then went to sleep I'm 99% sure that you have to be a premium viewer of NASL to watch the VoDs. I this point I wouldn't bother though. It was $25 for full season access to HD streams and VoDs. But I don't think it's really worth it at this point since the season ends in 2 days. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:24 Baituri wrote: No not really. To me it seems they still can't hold an event. I waited the first season to hope it would be better. But it did not. Even if the 2 day after this are awesome, they still did not prove to be considered one of the major e-sport events like MLG, IEM or DreamHack. This. Watching high beams on two of five casters (while the other three do fk all) against a black curtain backdrop, with the earthquake camera and sound in one ear doesn't really portray the same air of professionalism MLG or Dreamhack does. It seems like they went in two days in advance to set everything up. I'd say it was a disappointment, but every single week it's been like this. You cannot look towards the future and say it will be different, when 8 weeks in their stream was crashing and had sound problems. The prize pool is bigger than almost any other tournament, and the production value is a webcam with no tripod. It's absurd. On July 09 2011 21:35 Rici wrote: who won the mc vs boxer match? Read the OP. | ||
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Veno
United Kingdom16 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:41 Mr Showtime wrote: In the 1000+ pages I'm sure someone has mentioned this..... or maybe not...... But everyone remembers the tragic week that was NASL's premiere. That being said, everyone should also remember the week that followed which was monumentally better. I don't know how much difference we can expect with the days following the round of 16, but expect season 2 to be 1000x better. This is their first live event. Give them a break. I'm here to watch the games anyways, and so long as the stream isn't crashing regularly then I don't really mind the whole learning process for them. Im fed up of people saying 'give them a break'. I paid them for an experience that was absolutely terrible. As a sensible consumer I have every right to complain when a product or service I have paid for is downright awful. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:43 two.watup wrote: This. Watching high beams on two of five casters (while the other three do fk all) against a black curtain backdrop, with the earthquake camera and sound in one ear doesn't really portray the same air of professionalism MLG or Dreamhack does. It seems like they went in two days in advance to set everything up. I'd say it was a disappointment, but every single week it's been like this. I want someone else to produce a tournament for this prize money. NASL has proven they can't do it. Read the OP. Is it possible for NASL to ask MLG to host their finals for them? MLG Boothes and Double elimination format <3 | ||
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asdfVSqwert
Germany174 Posts
I hate it that there are sometime no such simple things like as a loser bracket. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:44 Veno wrote: Im fed up of people saying 'give them a break'. I paid them for an experience that was absolutely terrible. As a sensible consumer I have every right to complain when a product or service I have paid for is downright awful. Exactly. Just because you're doing something for the first time, doesn't mean, you can mess that up, especially if you're charging for it. It's not like they couldn't, I don't know, get there one freaking day sooner? Or hire somebody, who actually knows what they are doing? | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:47 asdfVSqwert wrote: What pissess me off the most, is that there is no Loser Bracket...How in the hell can't you do a loser Bracket? I mean most of the players have to tavel such a long distance and when they play a single bo3 and lose they already out? In Prizepool of 50k? What in the hell? I hate it that there are sometime no such simple things like as a loser bracket. GSL doesn't have a losers bracket. It's not that big of a deal. The production value being worse than a Livestream Vlogger with 10 followers largely overshadows the lack of acceptable tournament procedure. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:53 two.watup wrote: GSL doesn't have a losers bracket. It's not that big of a deal. The production value being worse than a Livestream Vlogger with 10 followers largely overshadows the lack of acceptable tournament procedure. The players in GSL didn't spend 2 months in group stages | ||
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Munchkin
Finland99 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:41 Mr Showtime wrote: In the 1000+ pages I'm sure someone has mentioned this..... or maybe not...... But everyone remembers the tragic week that was NASL's premiere. That being said, everyone should also remember the week that followed which was monumentally better. I don't know how much difference we can expect with the days following the round of 16, but expect season 2 to be 1000x better. This is their first live event. Give them a break. I'm here to watch the games anyways, and so long as the stream isn't crashing regularly then I don't really mind the whole learning process for them. Someone has to already explain to me how you can't know these basic things: - you need to test the hardware (projectors, cameras in booths, sound) in before hand. - you need someone observing who knows something about the game - you need to inform the paying audience why they are waiting and how long you expect them to be delayed if this happens - you need professionals working on the production if you expect people to pay $25 for this stuff If they wanted to.. they could have went to Incontrol and asked about some of this stuff if they honeslty did not know ANYTHING about running an event like this. There are really no excuses. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
You say, just a water please. And they shit in your face. Then they say, "oh, this is my first day, if you need a refill I'm sure it'll be better than the first one (when I shit in your face). And it'll cost 25 dollars). Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm not paying 25 dollars to get shit on my face. | ||
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Ohjay
Germany83 Posts
They should give back the $25 to everyone who paid for an HD pass. | ||
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Carny
Croatia284 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:53 two.watup wrote: GSL doesn't have a losers bracket. It's not that big of a deal. The production value being worse than a Livestream Vlogger with 10 followers largely overshadows the lack of acceptable tournament procedure. the difference is you dont travel on an 11 hour flight to get to gsl, you stay there and compete. and gsl happens every month + now team league at the same time where as nasl is a 3 month build up. my major annoyance (beyond what has already been brought up 100 times) is the fixed map pool???? wth. tvz on xelnaga is meh, terran favoured at best then after ret losing the first game he is forced to go crossfire, W T F. he was screwed before the games even started and this is for the guy who got first seed. the whole setup is designed to favour higher seeds, but we all knew the winner of the open bracket was going to be a beast. to win 10+ box's in a row takes something special. the idea that ret being 1st seed getting an easier time was always a joke, 2nd seed actually has the easiest. so it turns out he gets puma who is an old bw player and is getting some noise from the korean scene about being a beast. 2 terran favoured maps? bam, out goes the first seed. g.g. on a related note i hate that people keep bringing up that if its free you should shut up and just take what your given. this is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. even free events need sponsorship or advertisement, so if you want people to actually tune in to your free event you still need to deliver a quality product. hearing people who are in the business of selling these products telling people to just not watch if they dont like it is kinda funny and is hurting ESPORTS. | ||
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Dark Stalker
102 Posts
On July 09 2011 21:41 Mr Showtime wrote: In the 1000+ pages I'm sure someone has mentioned this..... or maybe not...... But everyone remembers the tragic week that was NASL's premiere. That being said, everyone should also remember the week that followed which was monumentally better. I don't know how much difference we can expect with the days following the round of 16, but expect season 2 to be 1000x better. This is their first live event. Give them a break. I'm here to watch the games anyways, and so long as the stream isn't crashing regularly then I don't really mind the whole learning process for them. Did you pay $25? Did you have all day free to watch the NASL which was what, 15 hours with only a few sets and regular three hour delays? | ||
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