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snurre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
July 04 2011 23:36 GMT
#1061
On July 05 2011 08:34 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:26 snurre wrote:
Kennigit: Did you watch the stream? Did you find the production quality professional enough to warrant MLG's high-horse stance? I didn't think so.

Are you suggesting that a company's PR/Marketting/Professionalism should be based on how well their stream performs????

McDonalds new slogan: "Badabahbahbah We'll make you a fat fuck"

Yes. Production quality matters to sponsors.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 04 2011 23:37 GMT
#1062
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 04 2011 23:38 GMT
#1063
What the hell is up with these casters lol
It appears I have been chosen.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
July 04 2011 23:38 GMT
#1064
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only change i'd make would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

Meh, if we started late on TSL and one of our casters said "I'm not used to starting late, I guess I should do more TL events" with a laugh or something, we'd probably not kick him off mid-cast. Then again, we're not exactly at the level of MLG with our events yet either (in terms of sponsorship and seriousness).

I think it could've been handled better by MLG for sure, esp if that chatlog of the guy thinking it was actually TB is true, lol. It's just a joke and they kind of know what they're getting with 2GD (esp since he made jokes about MLG before?).
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 04 2011 23:38 GMT
#1065
Man, I wish they would've kept Halo 3 instead of Reach, reach is awful.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
July 04 2011 23:38 GMT
#1066
On July 05 2011 08:38 Fyzar wrote:
What the hell is up with these casters lol

welcome to mainstream console esports
Marauder Die Die
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
July 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1067
On July 05 2011 08:34 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:26 snurre wrote:
Kennigit: Did you watch the stream? Did you find the production quality professional enough to warrant MLG's high-horse stance? I didn't think so.

Are you suggesting that a company's PR/Marketting/Professionalism should be based on how well their stream performs????

McDonalds new slogan: "Badabahbahbah We'll make you a fat fuck"


Off course they should, the image of ur company relies mainly on the product you deliver, especially if it's an online product.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1068
On July 05 2011 08:34 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:26 snurre wrote:
Kennigit: Did you watch the stream? Did you find the production quality professional enough to warrant MLG's high-horse stance? I didn't think so.

Are you suggesting that a company's PR/Marketting/Professionalism should be based on how well their stream performs????

McDonalds new slogan: "Badabahbahbah We'll make you a fat fuck"

lolol, well played good sir. People don't seem to understand that this isn't some little private stream, this is a flagship program.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 23:41:18
July 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1069
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.

If your employer is so amateurish that they can't get their shit together enough to even provide a foolproof contract and NDA, you have issues. Also, 2GD was not employed by MLG, and he didn't talk shit.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1070
On July 05 2011 08:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only change i'd make would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

Meh, if we started late on TSL and one of our casters said "I'm not used to starting late, I guess I should do more TL events" with a laugh or something, we'd probably not kick him off mid-cast. Then again, we're not exactly at the level of MLG with our events yet either (in terms of sponsorship and seriousness).

I think it could've been handled better by MLG for sure, esp if that chatlog of the guy thinking it was actually TB is true, lol. It's just a joke and they kind of know what they're getting with 2GD (esp since he made jokes about MLG before?).

Yes he did, he made jokes about pretty much everything, which is my concern really. If you get 2GD in, you know that this is going to happen.
It appears I have been chosen.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
July 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1071
On July 05 2011 08:38 MechKing wrote:
Man, I wish they would've kept Halo 3 instead of Reach, reach is awful.


This, but Halo:CE would have been much better still.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1072
What the hell did I miss?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
July 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1073
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.


he didn't talk shit though,, he made a small joke,, then went right back to the match.. i he had relentlessly insulted and made fun of mlg what they did would make sense,, but he didn't shit on anyone,, he just let off a tiny fart,,
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1074
yayyy reach time :D


too bad pro reach is meh
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
July 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1075
I like halo much more than cod, but i'm still desperate for some sc2... -_-
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1076
On July 05 2011 08:39 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:38 MechKing wrote:
Man, I wish they would've kept Halo 3 instead of Reach, reach is awful.


This, but Halo:CE would have been much better still.

Definitely :D Halo 2 was really good as well.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#1077
Where can I find the results of the earlier SC2 showmatches?
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 23:44:33
July 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#1078
In only a little while this particular spot of drama will be water under the bridge. I just hope it doesn't foreshadow future problems of editorial independence on New-SotG. Imagine another event turned out like Dallas but everyone on the show politely ignores all the problems for fear of the boot from above?
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1079
On July 05 2011 08:40 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:39 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:38 MechKing wrote:
Man, I wish they would've kept Halo 3 instead of Reach, reach is awful.


This, but Halo:CE would have been much better still.

Definitely :D Halo 2 was really good as well.

The BxR added a little bit of depth that console FPS's often dont have.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
snurre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
July 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1080
On July 05 2011 08:39 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:34 Kennigit wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:26 snurre wrote:
Kennigit: Did you watch the stream? Did you find the production quality professional enough to warrant MLG's high-horse stance? I didn't think so.

Are you suggesting that a company's PR/Marketting/Professionalism should be based on how well their stream performs????

McDonalds new slogan: "Badabahbahbah We'll make you a fat fuck"

lolol, well played good sir. People don't seem to understand that this isn't some little private stream, this is a flagship program.

As a flagship program, it was a sinking one at that from the beginning. All props to JP and people on it, but they had to restart the stream, the overlays were messed up from the beginning (The nuke into video anyone?), players lagging out and being unable to play some events, casters getting dropped from Skype calls. These are only some of the issues they had. This was hardly a good representation of MLG, not even counting the 2GD incident.
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