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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1081
assault with the body hitting lolol

tizo plays so well now but i still believe in sq


how many halo fans play sc2 xD
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
July 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1082
The joke was funny, the drama is funny. TL would have never found them in this position anyway because they do their homework on who they hire.
One year in Seoul...yesh please
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
July 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1083
On July 05 2011 08:40 Sebzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.


he didn't talk shit though,, he made a small joke,, then went right back to the match.. i he had relentlessly insulted and made fun of mlg what they did would make sense,, but he didn't shit on anyone,, he just let off a tiny fart,,


Another thing is, no-one actually could say MLG was in the blame for said technical difficulties in his comment considering that it was just some random Skype disconnection. Which makes it even more obvious how not serious he was with his comment.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 04 2011 23:43 GMT
#1084
I never got into Reach pro scene, but it seems like a lot of Halo 3 pros switched over. I still recognize a lot of their names
Zechs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 23:44:50
July 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1085
While leagues run the stream for their own events, it's gonna be tough to avoid stuff like this. It feels like the joke really hit a nerve with the MLG guys, which i guess is kind of understandable, but they could and should have dealt with it more professionaly. What's the use of yanking him mid-cast? All it does is ruin the rest of that game while the comment is already out in the open anyway.

Oh, and for those that don't know, they definitely knew what they were getting with 2GD. He and Slasher go way back.
Esports and stuff: zechleton.tumblr.com
snurre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
July 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1086
On July 05 2011 08:42 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:40 Sebzou wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.


he didn't talk shit though,, he made a small joke,, then went right back to the match.. i he had relentlessly insulted and made fun of mlg what they did would make sense,, but he didn't shit on anyone,, he just let off a tiny fart,,


Another thing is, no-one actually could say MLG was in the blame for said technical difficulties in his comment considering that it was just some random Skype disconnection. Which makes it even more obvious how not serious he was with his comment.

Double standards? People keep saying MLG has to be professional and is responsible for their stream towards their sponsors and paying customers. But it's NOT their fault when they constantly have technical issues?
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1087
Tizoxic is a pretty sweet ID
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1088
Did 2GD cast WoW in the past? I think I recognise his voice.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
July 04 2011 23:45 GMT
#1089
On July 05 2011 08:44 Ruscour wrote:
Did 2GD cast WoW in the past? I think I recognise his voice.

yup, @ esl
Marauder Die Die
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14056 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1090
On July 05 2011 08:33 labbe wrote:


Here's what 2GD got booted for if anyone's interested.



thats seems a lot worse then people where talking about. If It was an offhand joke then yeah but he went on for a few sentences and it was the first thing he said .

For any of the sc2 Halo or Black ops It wouldn't be a problem because mlg would go to bat for them but quakes not the circut at least not yet and he doesn't have the relationship with mlg to get a pass for that.

saying that they have a hell of a lot of quake being played in comparission to their bigger established titles. only on the level of sc2 with is their biggest title right now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Speny
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada71 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1091
I wish it was Halo: CE too. It had traits of a game that helped the competitiveness of the game, such as grenade bouncing, double melee bug, backpack reload bug, less autoaim, and frankly, having the three shot kill on the pistol made it so that even if you spawn on top of a guy with sniper / rocket, you can skill out skill him. Just not a possibility beyond a fluke in any of the Halo games since then. And MechKing I have to disagree, I though Halo: 2 was the worst for being newbie. But that may be why I was also the best at that one
"I love starcraft, and I love that I love starcraft." - Striderdoom
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1092
Holy crap. After watching quake pros this console stuff is sad.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1093
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MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1094
Has there been any word on when the 2v2 is coming back?

I was looking forward to seeing what's so great about Catz' & Drewbie's 2v2.

Thanks.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#1095
On July 05 2011 08:44 snurre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:42 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:40 Sebzou wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.


he didn't talk shit though,, he made a small joke,, then went right back to the match.. i he had relentlessly insulted and made fun of mlg what they did would make sense,, but he didn't shit on anyone,, he just let off a tiny fart,,


Another thing is, no-one actually could say MLG was in the blame for said technical difficulties in his comment considering that it was just some random Skype disconnection. Which makes it even more obvious how not serious he was with his comment.

Double standards? People keep saying MLG has to be professional and is responsible for their stream towards their sponsors and paying customers. But it's NOT their fault when they constantly have technical issues?


These are the same guys that blew up a small non-serious at all jest (from a caster that is known and expected to make those types of comments) into a HE TALKED SHIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY! GET OUT! excrement-storm.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#1096
On July 05 2011 08:43 MechKing wrote:
I never got into Reach pro scene, but it seems like a lot of Halo 3 pros switched over. I still recognize a lot of their names

only a few people really retired .
although shitty h3 teams became really really good in reach.

this map actually looks good though
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
July 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#1097
Whoever made that point about SotG not covering this whole 2GD/MLG drama because of its new MLG affiliation is totally right I think. How unfortunate.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#1098
On July 05 2011 08:46 Odal wrote:
Holy crap. After watching quake pros this console stuff is sad.


Yeah, compared to Quake, Halo is kinda rough... but it's still more entertaining than BlackOps in my opinion, I find the team dynamics to shine through better, things like that last sacrificial flag toss to his teammate for the flag cap. There's some really clever play.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#1099
On July 05 2011 08:39 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 08:37 Serpico wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:19 vrok wrote:
On July 05 2011 08:16 Kennigit wrote:
Why is everyone freaking out? If we had a caster get on TSL and shit on TL do you think we'd keep him around? The only different thing id do would be to yank him after the cast to minimize drama. Lessons learned etc.

Think of it from MLG's pov - its a brand new product that they were already having issues with. The SC2 cast before it was laced with swear words from TLO/MrBitter/Ret which is huge nono and probably already left them uncomfortable. On top of that there are sponsors watching - MLG are promoting it a lot and when you have a loose cannon who has a history of shitting on you (teasing or not - sponsors dont care about that) it looks incredibly bad. I'm not surprised they yanked 2GD - i'm more surprised Slasher convinced everyone to give him shot (after dreamhack). Whats he going to do next - say that Astro is a shit brand and that he only uses Razer headsets? The trust is gone at that point.

I think 2GD is really entertaining, and his BM is pretty funny - but don't pull your bitch-forks out when it bites him in the ass.

If they're going to be so butthurt about nothing then they should've done their freaking jobs and made shit like that clear to their casters beforehand, like a professional organization. You can't expect professionalism when you don't put any in yourself.

If you have to be told not to talk shit about your employer you have issues.

If your employer is so amateurish that they can't get their shit together enough to even provide a foolproof contract and NDA, you have issues. Also, 2GD was not employed by MLG, and he didn't talk shit.

When you're allowed to guest commentate it's still them giving you the opportunity to cast. It's his fault for acting that way, if you need a contract shoved in your face to know not to make jokes about the company you're commentating for you'll have a hard time sticking around.

MLG could have waited and handled things better, but ultimately protecting your brand is more important than giving a caster a long leash.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1100
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