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I'm not sure if it makes sense to create a tournament series with a similar name and the same abbreviation as the most prestigeous national leagues in several European countries.
EPS = ESL Pro Series, a product of Turtle Entertainment, and not some z33k.com online cup.
EPS stands for European Pro Series. For your information ESL stands for European Star League and Not ESL Pro Series. Plz check ur information before you accuse us of stealing something or what ever ur point might be.
KaveX is actually right here. Even though most people seem to abbreviate ESL Pro Series as "ESL" (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Series_Germany mentions this) ESL themselves seem to call it "EPS" (you can see it on http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/summer_2011/ ). I also believe that ESL stands for Electronic Sports League and not European Star League.
I'm sure noone is accusing you of anything, just giving you a helpful pointer to avoid confusion.
On July 22 2011 01:47 Verax wrote: EPS stands for European Pro Series. For your information ESL stands for European Star League and Not ESL Pro Series. Plz check ur information before you accuse us of stealing something or what ever ur point might be.
What the hell are you talking about? Have you seriously never heard of the ESL before?
ESL = http://www.esl.eu - Electronic Sports League, the biggest online league in Europe, a company with over 100 full-time employees (they also organize the Intel Extreme Masters, IEM) EPS = http://www.esl.eu/eu/eps/ - ESL Pro Series, the highest national league in Germany, France, Spain and Poland (its winners directly qualify for the IEM)... the German EPS has six-digit prize money sums
These two brands are way more relevant than your amateur cups and I don't understand why you use the same abbreviations. Actually, I'm pretty sure the ESL could sue you for brand infringement if they actually wanted to (which they don't, why should they care).
There is a difference though. ESL is using abbreviation, almost conveniently, to make address of the page shorter http://www.esl.eu/eu/eps/ . But when You actually visit this page or just any place on ESL they don't use EPS abbreviation but whole ESL PRO Series or just PRO Series - http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/summer_2011/. There is no EPS tournament on ESL page. It's like calling Mercedes Benz MB or Alfa Romeo AR and than claiming that nothing can be called MB or AR. z33k is not using any brand, because there isn't any. Sorry but You are making problems in a wrong place about wrong thing.
It's about the E(...) Pro Series, not the abbreviation. Yet I'm not saying it's a crime or anything, it just leaves a weird impression, just like if I called a car manufacturer Albania Romeo.
Also everyone (at least in Germany) says EPS when talking about the ESL Pro Series; why are you even arguing with me? It shouldn't be in your interest to have a name that people associate with a (much stronger) competitor's brand.
Trust me we, z33k, didn't want to give impression that we have something to do with ESL. It would be wrong to call one of our tournaments for example European Sport League but EPS is not a brand. Coincidentally ESL PRO Series has same abbreviation, but it is not even official abbreviation. As far as I observed ESL use it only sometimes for convenience. Additionally if You look for "EPS" in google it will show neither ESL PRO Series nor European Pro Series but hundreds of things.
BTW, ESL and ESL's tournaments are not just names but also characteristic logos and colors. Can You see any of this in z33k EPS? That's is my answer to ridiculous statement that they could sue z33k.
If You use it in German. In English and Polish it doesn't show any Starcraft related EPSs. At least not on first page.
So in German and probably only in German "EPS" is commonly related to ESL Pro Series. As I said, not only we don't want to give impression that we have something to do with ESL, but also ESL tournaments are recognizable by colors, logos and specific way of posting informations. All different than z33k's.
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