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On June 26 2011 03:51 LeadingProgamer wrote: I am regreting to have chosen Nani as my anti-team player in fantasy GSL..
Why would you do that in the first place? Naniwa is the strongest player outside Korea (maybe Thorzain) and F.United only has ~6 players, so chances are Naniwa will be used every GSTL day. Hes going to win lots, I'd of put him on my main team if I had points
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NaNiwa giving up on the 4gate, transitioning to robotics.
MC puts down a twilight council.
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who thinks mc is going charge? I do!
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On June 26 2011 03:52 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 03:46 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 26 2011 03:42 Bash wrote: It's getting preeeetty annoying that no matter what unit composition zerg uses, the people in this thread will pick the one unit they didn't use and claim that would've been the magic bullet... How about just be quiet when you have no idea what's going on, the game isn't all about fucking unit composition. All of the crying about Blink has been countered with a simple answer. Better Infestor timing. Pretty simple, really. Fungal's about as good of a hard counter as you can get to Blink. I see an early lair, I cancel the third and blink, kill you with an a-move while watching tv, nice try though.
Cute. Theorycrafters like you are proven wrong once every two weeks when a new build comes out and dominates for a bit. Last time this happened, Roach/Ling all-in was dominating Protoss left and right and people were bitching constantly. You know what happened? A week passed and Protoss refined Stargate or DT openings while FE'ing to hold it off. Hell, HuK's Stalkers aren't even owning Zerg left and right - just two Zerg that were playing sub-par games. Suck it up and stop theorycrafting BS that never really works out. You people are proven wrong every damn time.
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Oooh Naniwa looks indecisive. Nervous maybe?
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On June 26 2011 03:53 tomatriedes wrote: Naniwa played Warcraft 3? Which race? The shitty one you are not supposed to play if you want to win.
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"holy shit" ESPORTS
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YES build order win for nani :D
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Is naniwa the only pro that plays left handed? right hand on the keyboard
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Naniwa gets lucky with obs vs dt!
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what i find really impressive about nani is that hes so adaptive...he s got a perfectly defined bo ..but als can step away from it if the situation requires it..
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Anyone knows what mouse Naniwa is using?
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Good game so far, what a great tournament.
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Wow I actually thought he might go DTs, especially after Nani decided to go robo. (To clear up what I meant by that, it crossed my mind when he got the robo).
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On June 26 2011 03:56 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 03:53 tomatriedes wrote: Naniwa played Warcraft 3? Which race? The shitty one you are not supposed to play if you want to win.
Undead?
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On June 26 2011 03:51 Legend` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 03:47 Piski wrote:On June 26 2011 03:44 Legend` wrote:On June 26 2011 03:40 Piski wrote:On June 26 2011 03:39 Legend` wrote:On June 26 2011 03:37 Rayansaki wrote:On June 26 2011 03:31 Exarl25 wrote: If I massed Stalkers against Marauders and got destroyed then no one would cry imbalance.
But Stalkers versus Roaches and it's a completely different story. This is so true :[] Well its a well known fact that zerg players complain the most lol. For some reason they think amoving with roaches takes more skill than going blink stalkers and actually have to -gasp- MICRO Logic usually helps but I think most of them just watch idra everyday and believes everything he says. How zerg should be microing their roaches against blink stalkers? :o He had obs there so no burrow play and he were backing away quite well. I'm seriously curious. I dont think blink stalkers are imba or anything but I just want to know how to micro roaches against blink stalkers? That's exactly the point - you DONT micro roaches against blink stalkers. It's a lot easier for the zerg to just send armies to fight the protoss and not pay any attention whatsoever than for the protoss to do the same thing. For protoss to fight mass roaches you need: 1: favourable position/arc 2: favourable upgrades (because rarely will you have more blink stalkers than roaches due to roaches being 75/25) 3: good micro. Anything above 15-20 roaches do incredible dps vs stalkers and it actually isn't as easy as it seems to micro and reinforce at the same time. I agree but why do you then complain that zergs just A-move the roaches against blink and whine if that's the "right" thing to do? HuK was attacking idra and idra run away everytime he got to a choke. IdrA failed with upgrades but he got all the other things right. I was mostly picking on your "A-move" whine Because all of the zergs complain about how impossible blink stalker is to beat when they don't realize the skill involved in actually pulling it off, in comparison to zergs not having to do nearly the same amount of work to reach the same result.
I'm fine with it. Blink stalker control is something you had to put a lot of work into. In what the zerg can put work to deal with it ?
In the case of Blink, and Forcefield most of the time, the better the protoss is, the harder it is for the zerg. And there's no counterpart in that.
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nani is a in a gooood position :D :D :D
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On June 26 2011 03:54 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 03:50 oogieogie wrote:On June 26 2011 03:37 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 26 2011 03:34 AnalThermometer wrote: As a Protoss I can't see blink stalkers staying as they are PvZ, they're just too easy to use when you can empty the built up minerals during micro with 6-8+ warp gates. Also the "just made roaches" argument is equally as stupid as the "just made marauders" argument, they're a core unit. Yet you wouldn't just build marauders when you see a toss making voidrays would you? Blink stalkers are a hard counter to roaches(Especially with Immortals in the mix). "Too easy to use?" You're not a Protoss player you Liar I can smell your zerg Idra fanboy tears from here! Blinking Individual stalkers while keeping up your macro is extremely difficult to do. the problem seems to come from where infestors can't come early enough, and blink stalkers counters all of zerg T1. Also idk i think another problems is where protoss can get +3 weapons super quick. Well to be far, by the time protoss has +3 upgrades And blink and 3 bases Zerg should probably be past T1, correct? Reminds me a lot of when Terrans would complain that their T1 bio ball can't handle Collosi. Yes protoss can Chrono upgrades quicker but still if they have time to tech so do you. I apologize if my posts come off as condescending that is not my intent. Its just frustrating to see EVERY LR thread resort to mass balance whine every time a zerg loses(Especially Idra). How many games have you seen where people came back from a 80 supply deficit that didn't involve blink?Exactly, 1 out 10000.
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