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On June 26 2011 00:05 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 22:50 Zhiroo wrote:
That second game MC vs Jinro looked like a Grandmaster vs a Bronze player. A comment which shows you have about the same game understanding as your average bronze player yourself --; MCs build vs my build was 100% rock paper scissors where I was scissor and he was rock. The timings for ghost pushes are just way too late because the macro kicks in much stronger than normal when you tripple, and I cant scout it because wasting scans sucks. If you are playing against a better player you dont win by being overly cautious, if I hadnt been able to scout him putting down a nexus I would have scanned his natural because I think I have to, but since I knew about the nexus, I m going to use a mule instead to make the situation as good for myself as it can be.
I think you can't play your standard style against MC, he felt way too confident and comfortable for a guy double expading despite little scouting which made me think that he knows how you play way too well.
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On June 26 2011 00:08 Kevan wrote:
Stream quality is pretty good in the start of the games, then it gets almost unwatchable.
Yeah if there is alot of movement or alot of units moving around.....its gets really blurry......
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On June 26 2011 00:09 Vaeila wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 00:07 minhchi1211 wrote:
My predict:
Naniwa loses to MC, Idra wins over Huk, IDRA VS MC!
MC wins again, Naniwa walks up again in loser bracket, face MC in the final for the second time. Win over MC. <3 MC has to beat ThorZain first..
ezry win, yeah? 
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Sorry for stupid question, but who are the commentators from left to right?
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Don't let idra get 4 hatches before you leave your base this time socke
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Socke going for Zealot/Stalker-pressure I guess
@StimMarine
HasuObs, Rotterdam, Delphi
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On June 26 2011 00:04 Nero. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 00:02 Endalay wrote:
Dunno maybe i am only, but does the stream is MUCH MUCH MORE worse today than 2 days before ? i mean the free stream -..- solution: get the HD for the incredible amount of money of 5 euros...
Well then give me a reason why would they make SHIT quality at the last 2 days ? i mean i was watching first 2 days fine and i was enjoyed the free stream quality, if it would be so shit at the first day no doubt i would buy it for next 4 days, but now i watched 2 days shit-enjoyable quality and on the last 2 days they think LETS MAKE stream quality even shitter so people waste money at last 2 days i mean wtf ?
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Thorzain has been looking really hot in his latest games
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Oh, Carmack is there too?
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On June 26 2011 00:08 rdj107 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 00:04 Ahelvin wrote:On June 26 2011 00:03 anonymitylol wrote:On June 26 2011 00:03 Titorelli wrote:
Why does Idra keep morphing ultras??? Because he's about to win with them? Some banelings may be a better choice. With drop tech, it's awesome. The first instinct late game is to just start throwing out a ton of top tier units, but yeah I agree, banes would've been more effective and ended this game safer and faster.
Yeah, I always fall for this...
"ZOMG MUST REMAX QUICK LOLZ"... And seconds after you have 10 useless ultras that hump each others in a choke.
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On June 26 2011 00:00 aqui wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 23:59 Logros wrote:
To the person asking how you deal with stalkers? That's how. It's plain stupid to compare these games disregarding the early/mid game. Of course you would WANT so many infestors.
If you want infestors making lings instead of roaches gives you more gas.
The melee upgrades and units also played a large part in those battles, lings ruin stalkers cost for cost (and don't do too badly against poorly defended colossi).
I would have liked to see a muta transition instead of the 9 ultras. His opponent was down to 5 stalkers and was gearing up to deal with ling ultra (so zealot immortal) with no sign of templar or stargate yet. 20 mutas come out faster than the ultras and could have annihilated the mineral lines completely sealing the deal. It's just a thought mind you, I happen to like a hard muta transition especially when you have forced him out of stalkers. 20 mutas can also snipe buildings (my favorite is to transition hard and the first thing I hit with the mutas is the cyber. Gives a couple minutes of freely killing everything.
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In this situation, if you ever feel the protoss might be able to defend, I think getting mutas is ok as a Protoss would not go from Zealot Immortal DT to Stalker HT very quickly at all.
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On June 26 2011 00:05 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 22:50 Zhiroo wrote:
That second game MC vs Jinro looked like a Grandmaster vs a Bronze player. A comment which shows you have about the same game understanding as your average bronze player yourself --; MCs build vs my build was 100% rock paper scissors where I was scissor and he was rock. The timings for ghost pushes are just way too late because the macro kicks in much stronger than normal when you tripple, and I cant scout it because wasting scans sucks. If you are playing against a better player you dont win by being overly cautious, if I hadnt been able to scout him putting down a nexus I would have scanned his natural because I think I have to, but since I knew about the nexus, I m going to use a mule instead to make the situation as good for myself as it can be.
Don't let the haters get to you, Jinro. You know the saying; haters gonna hate... --;
I think you played well the first game, almost killing him with that first push. Second game is as you described, rock/paper/scissor... MC with the huge advantage of 3 nexi, gateway heavy...
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If it's that late into the game on such a large map, maybe you should nydus for faster reinforcements and bring a few queens for transfusing on the ultras (or have I been watching spanishiwa too much  )
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On June 26 2011 00:05 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 22:50 Zhiroo wrote:
That second game MC vs Jinro looked like a Grandmaster vs a Bronze player. A comment which shows you have about the same game understanding as your average bronze player yourself --; MCs build vs my build was 100% rock paper scissors where I was scissor and he was rock. The timings for ghost pushes are just way too late because the macro kicks in much stronger than normal when you tripple, and I cant scout it because wasting scans sucks. If you are playing against a better player you dont win by being overly cautious, if I hadnt been able to scout him putting down a nexus I would have scanned his natural because I think I have to, but since I knew about the nexus, I m going to use a mule instead to make the situation as good for myself as it can be.
That match was probably your best show in the last weeks imo. gj.
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socke loves to cheese idra. 5 gate nexus cancel inc!?
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On June 26 2011 00:09 StimMarine wrote:
Sorry for stupid question, but who are the commentators from left to right?
hasuobs rotterdam deplhi
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On June 26 2011 00:05 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 22:50 Zhiroo wrote:
That second game MC vs Jinro looked like a Grandmaster vs a Bronze player. A comment which shows you have about the same game understanding as your average bronze player yourself --; MCs build vs my build was 100% rock paper scissors where I was scissor and he was rock. The timings for ghost pushes are just way too late because the macro kicks in much stronger than normal when you tripple, and I cant scout it because wasting scans sucks. If you are playing against a better player you dont win by being overly cautious, if I hadnt been able to scout him putting down a nexus I would have scanned his natural because I think I have to, but since I knew about the nexus, I m going to use a mule instead to make the situation as good for myself as it can be.
Was also a big shame, wasn't it just 1 sentry you missed with the EMP?(think it was 1 FF from a EMP'ed sentry and 2 from one you missed) if you had hit all, I think you would've been in a pretty decent position.
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Ahahah poor rotterdam with his farseer.
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