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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:21:17
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7621
Lol, this discussion comes up again and again.

In terms of SC 2 scenes, Huk is not fully Korean. This does not necessarily have to do with his place of birth - it has to do with the fact that he, despite practicing in Korea, is still considered a foreigner player there. He isn't fully fluent in the language, doesn't practice most of Korean culture, and has a foreigner's "untouchable" aura that comes with being part of TL instead of oGs.

The oGs coach doesn't treat Huk like he does a Korean. His team members do not treat him like a Korean. These differences between the environment Huk exists in and the environment Korean pro-gamers exist separate them as players. Huk, while being part of the Korean scene, is also apart from it. It was the same with Idra, and in fact Idra has often complained about being a foreigner in Korea and being isolated because of the linguistic and cultural barrier. Huk is doing better in this respect because he is part of TL and TL has a deal with oGs, but he's still not a Korean pro-gamer.

That said, it would be erroneous to label Huk as being part of the NA o EU scenes. He doesn't practice in NA or EU at all. He barely participates in the NA and EU SC 2 communities. His training regimens are significantly different from that of a NA or EU pro-gamer, as are his opportunities.

In short, Huk is a foreigner in Korea. He is part of the same scene that Jinro is part of, and that Idra was part of. This scene is different from both the Korean scene and the NA/EU scenes. It is unique in itself produces players who are, in the sense of SC 2 scenes, Korean and yet not Korean.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7622
On June 20 2011 02:18 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:15 loazis wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:14 XothermeK wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:14 FinnGamer wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:12 XothermeK wrote:
What happend to all the 16 terrans? Why just 3 in play off?

They didn't play well


You are a funny guy

?

Obviously they didn't play well enough, otherwise guys like Kas and Happy would have advanced right?

Exactly, I think that most of the terran underperformed, Like Kas choking and Happy not playing as solid as people would have expected him to


Strelok got a rough group too. I think he would've done better in Jinro, Kas or Happy's group. For me he was the best foreigner Terran at this event.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Fjolle
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark25 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7623
On June 20 2011 02:16 blae000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:15 thefreed wrote:
what's the song that's playing on day9 streams?


This O___O ♫

Röyksopp - What else is there?
kagemucha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7624
If Select is considered a "foreigner" then Huk is a Korean. Case closed.
Ninjin
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany230 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7625
I remember hearing that demuslim was at dreamhack too, what happend to him?
Don't get a girlfriend unless you have to. You will be much happier with a Goldfish and a high speed internet connection.
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7626
On June 20 2011 02:19 Nyovne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

If that is fake I am banning you, just saying.


Oh he better hope he guessed right then.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7627
DRG is in a similar position to Bomber's a few months ago.
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#7628
huk is a korean till he lose to a foreigner, then, he is american
badog
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7629
On June 20 2011 02:18 Suzido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:13 Oscatron wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

OMFG

HUK VS IDRA

EPIC

Huk and Idra are the worst players that got through, so I wouldn't call that epic (even if it was true).



Sounds like someone's a little upset
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7630
On June 20 2011 02:18 Suzido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:13 Oscatron wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

OMFG

HUK VS IDRA

EPIC

Huk and Idra are the worst players that got through, so I wouldn't call that epic (even if it was true).


That is a little much. You seriously think Idra and Huk aren't as good as BratOK, Socke, Mana, Predy, and HasuObs?
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7631
On June 20 2011 02:18 Suzido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:13 Oscatron wrote:
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

OMFG

HUK VS IDRA

EPIC

Huk and Idra are the worst players that got through, so I wouldn't call that epic (even if it was true).
Goody and Brat_OK are not better than them, really. All 4 are great players but Huk/Idra > Those two I'd say. :S
#freeshauni
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7632
On June 20 2011 02:19 Nyovne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

If that is fake I am banning you, just saying.


Ban away.
Love is more fun than hate.
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7633
On June 20 2011 02:19 Nyovne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:12 Zer0Kewl wrote:
Draw results in:

Huk vs idra
july vs hasuobs
Sase vs MC

rest is irrelevant

If that is fake I am banning you, just saying.

It is fake, draws are in 1 minute
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7634
On June 20 2011 02:18 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 02:11 Unnamed wrote:
So what we have? 4 Koreans vs 44 non-Koreans, and all of them advanced from their groups (losing 1 match only). Now we have 4 Koreans vs 12 foreigners in playoffs. Shouldn't we start to worry that it may be "Korean" finals? For me - it's like 95% that at least 1 Korean will be in final.


I don't think that any of the foreigners in the event trains as hard and in an enviorment as good as the Korean players.

I hope that things will change when the real team houses will open up (EG house and Reign house in NA).

Naugrim for example practices 12 hours per day, according to his interview.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7635
Are they going to do whole drawing ceremony or just post ready brackets ?
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 17:21:11
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7636
On June 20 2011 02:19 kagemucha wrote:
If Select is considered a "foreigner" then Huk is a Korean. Case closed.
Except that SeleCT is a korean.

Seriously, HuK is a Korean trained foreigner, just like IdrA and Jinro, and SeleCT is a foreign trained Korean.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7637
On June 20 2011 02:19 Ninjin wrote:
I remember hearing that demuslim was at dreamhack too, what happend to him?

Check out the thread around TL. He has panic attacks about travelling sometimes, and had to pull out due to late travel arrangements. He'll be at Homestory cup though. Shame, I love him.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
2par
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway129 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7638
Its 19:20!
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7639
Yay, DnB on Day9 stream (Pun intended)
Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
June 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#7640
On June 20 2011 02:19 Ninjin wrote:
I remember hearing that demuslim was at dreamhack too, what happend to him?


Had to drop out due to issues with stress when traveling apparently (would get panic attacks or somesuch).
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