NASL Open Tournament - Page 38

On June 23 2011 08:15 InvalidID wrote:
TSL_JYP is playing under the account name "FecalFeast". I wonder if he has any idea what it means.. lol

On June 23 2011 08:32 Sharkey wrote:
If this is the NASL (where NA stands for North America) I think it would be prudent to have a large sample size of its players from North America. Am I asking that they league be overtly biased towards N.A. players? Yes! Does that mean that N.A. players will have an easier time qualifying and staying in the league? Yes!

If you want to lend a helping hand to N.A. players so that one day they can be on par with their Korean counterparts, then you would give them every chance to succeed. Does that mean that you eliminate their competition, so they can win tournaments? Or do you put them toe-to-toe with the best players in the world to see how they stack up? I prefer a balance. You have to give them a chance to win you can't put them in the GSL and say go and do your best. Nor would they play just against players below their level (Masters League, etc). I remember seeing an interview with Giyom (fyi: Canadian BW player from the early 2000s) a long time ago and he said that the best situation for growth is when you win 55% of your games. That way you do not grow frustrated with your results, but at the same time you learn from your mistakes.

I would implement a rule that is similar to what the CFL (Canadian Football League) does. Each team has a 42 man active rostering consisting of 16 non-Canadians with 3 non-Canadians you can use as back ups for those 16. The underlying purpose is that the CFL remains a Canadian league with lots of representation from Canada. You might say this is unfair but the CFL makes their own rules and it tries to speak to its audience (ie Canadians).

I think the NASL should do something similar. Logistically I don't know how this should work. Maybe they cap the Koreans at 15. So when some Koreans don't qualify for the next season spots get open for new Koreans to qualify. Koreans then have their own separate qualifiers to see who qualifies for the general qualifiers. Sounds like a lot of work? Yes, but I think it would keep the NASL main audience engaged the most and that would help its sponsors as well. It would also help to grow esports more in N.A. I would also suggest that you start sooner then later, so their isn't as big of a backlash.

CFL corresponding link

Thoughts?

On June 23 2011 08:32 Sharkey wrote:
If this is the NASL (where NA stands for North America) I think it would be prudent to have a large sample size of its players from North America. Am I asking that they league be overtly biased towards N.A. players? Yes! Does that mean that N.A. players will have an easier time qualifying and staying in the league? Yes!

On June 23 2011 07:52 Xeris wrote:


It's kinda funny how much shit we got from everyone that we didn't at first announce that we were adding Koreans, or we didn't do enough to add Koreans... and now people are worried that there will be too many Koreans. Can't please anyone, apparently !

Honestly, the die has been cast and will fall as it does. We can't really stop Koreans without seemingly incredibly biased. If we maintain an open qualification process, which really is the fairest way, we can't really limit Koreans. If we made it favorable to Americans somehow, then it would be unfair, by definition, to everyone else. I mean, the fact that Koreans and Europeans have to play with NA lag is an inherent advantage to NA players, if you really think about it.

If American players aren't good enough, however, to qualify... there isn't much more we can do without totally biasing the competition.

That being said, I think Minigun (if he can get past Major) has a very good shot ^_^!

On June 23 2011 09:36 FallDownMarigold wrote:
So I'm stepping in here a bit late...

Can anyone out there ring off the remaining Korean players as of now in the NASL Open? From what I gather:

-Clide
-aLive
-Lee ho joon (assuming Korean, never heard of him.. real ID anyone?)
-Rain
-Minhyuk kim (again, assuming, and I have no idea what his real ID is)


Any others left that still have a shot of getting in? I'm pumped to see extra Koreans added - great job Xeris & NASL. It would be such a pathetic joke if NASL disallowed Koreans from entering.

On June 23 2011 09:20 Primadog wrote:
If I understand the brackets correctly, round-of-6 is where the 8 players whom qualify for Season 2 will be decided. This means some good players are competing for a single spot!

On June 23 2011 09:41 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Thanks so from that I'll also infer that indeed I named them all and that there aren't any others still in. Shocked to see that Virus was beaten early on... Someone mustve been either very good or lucky

On June 23 2011 09:51 Duravi wrote:
Okay, say since there are two methods for qualifying for the next season, open tournament and qualifier tournament, one could be international and the other limited to NA to ensure that some NA players are in the mix if the lack of them becomes an issue. Even this solution still has a big flaw though; if the NA players need a segregated tournament to even qualify how are they going to compete in the regular season against the koreans (and euros to some extent)? It would make for some pretty bad and one-sided games which we already had a lot of this season. The responsibility is not on the NASL to make NA players stop being a laughingstock in tournaments aside from a couple exceptions (Huk, Idra).

On June 23 2011 09:55 Oboeman wrote:
Are the open tourney games being officially cast/broadcasted?

On June 23 2011 08:53 jmbthirteen wrote:


And the CFL is a joke compared to the NFL. NASL wants to be the best league. That means they need the best players. NA players already have home server advantage. I love my NA players, but the fact is that they just need to step it up.

On June 23 2011 09:26 lunchforthesky wrote:


In that case you can say goodbye to an awful lot of subscribers. I personally bought the HD pass, it was probably worth it and assuming more Koreans qualify I think I'll pay again, but there's no chance on this earth I pay $25 to see Strife Cro vs Minigun, it's just not going to happen and I'm sure a lot of people agree. The money I pay is not to see the NASL it's to see it's players and it's not unconditional.