EPTNASL Open Tournament - Page 37
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Darkthorn
Romania912 Posts
On June 23 2011 03:40 Benjef wrote: Thanks for that. Was wondering about who the Koreans were! Rain vs Major should be interesting when and if it comes to it. I think Thorzain, Rain and Clide are in good stand to make it quite far and win. Rain won't get past Deathangel you heard it here first! =)) | ||
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
http://www.justin.tv/axeltoss/b/288612488 I'll make specific games into highlights soon. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:51 Gaius Baltar wrote: I have a question about signups. Were people from the main tournament who were knocked out (IdrA, Tyler, etc) allowed to sign up for this? Thanks. No. IdrA is qualified for next season, cannot under any circumstances make the Grand Finals of Season 1. Tyler is not qualified, he will be eligible to compete in the Season 2 qualifier for one of the eight remaining spots if he so desires. | ||
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Mephyss
Brazil128 Posts
Hope he or Dimaga gets the win and nice to see that many TSL players trying | ||
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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
On June 23 2011 04:24 FairForever wrote: If I wasn't super busy with school (major midterms tomorrow) I would've as well  I don't know why so many ppl made such a big fuss over the $10.Because it'd be terrible for esports if every organization starting running online tournaments where less than 5% of the entry fees is being placed back into the prize pool. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 23 2011 06:51 G2Wolf wrote: Because it'd be terrible for esports if every organization starting running online tournaments where less than 5% of the entry fees is being placed back into the prize pool. The prize pool of NASL is $100,000. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
now it could be top8 will ONLY be korean then nasl will contail like 16+ koreans (and season 3 could be 25+ koreans then) what your idea to stop the NASL go korean only league ? | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote: my problem here is nearly ALL koreans managed to stay in the league, now it could be top8 will ONLY be korean then nasl will contail like 16+ koreans (and season 3 could be 25+ koreans then) what your idea to stop the NASL go korean only league ? I don't really have any ideas to stop the NASL from being an only Korean league. And honestly, I think it's a huge shame on the foreign community if the league ends up being 50 Korean players... that means that non Koreans need to train harder to be able to compete! If only Koreans are winning, then kudos to them for trying harder, taking it more seriously, and being better =D | ||
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dragoonier
Germany154 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 23 2011 07:19 Xeris wrote: I don't really have any ideas to stop the NASL from being an only Korean league. And honestly, I think it's a huge shame on the foreign community if the league ends up being 50 Korean players... that means that non Koreans need to train harder to be able to compete! If only Koreans are winning, then kudos to them for trying harder, taking it more seriously, and being better =D As a fan, I have mixed feelings about this issue. On the one hand, I entirely agree that the onus is on the foreign scene to 'man-up' and rise to the occasion. The last thing I want to subscribe to is a farcical league, with players that can't compete at an international level. I would rather pay for a league that is 50% Korean and enjo the best level of play possible. On the other hand, if one of NASL's long-term goals is to provide incentive for NA players to grow, and develop the e-sport scene here, I think the NASL will have to make some kind of concessions in the future, to ensure the NA players with the most potential have the opportunity to participate. This could mean anywhere from scheduling NA player games outside standard work and school hours, or providing small prizes during divisional play for participants. I'm not sure what the solution is, but the pool of NA players aren't suddenly going to become top tier players overnight. Even though the NASL has an incredible prize pool, it's not a strong enough incentive for a 'tweeners' or up-and-coming players to quit their job or school to participant in NASL or other leagues. | ||
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote: my problem here is nearly ALL koreans managed to stay in the league, now it could be top8 will ONLY be korean then nasl will contail like 16+ koreans (and season 3 could be 25+ koreans then) what your idea to stop the NASL go korean only league ? If the foreigners can't win enough games vs Koreans even with Kor>NA latency then do they really deserve the prive money to begin with? | ||
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cwp
United States10 Posts
On June 23 2011 05:35 Zanno wrote: i actually have a theory, that slayers sent none of their players to play in the open tournament intentionally, to give boxer a better chance of winning most of the players signing up to the open are from team startale, which has been more active in the international scene than most koreans teams All but, I believe, two are from Team SCV Life. One is Rain, who was just recently part of TSL. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote: my problem here is nearly ALL koreans managed to stay in the league, 9 out of 11, yes. On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote:now it could be top8 will ONLY be korean That's not possible. With the way the brackets in this tournament are set up, a maximum of 5 Koreans can advance. On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote:then nasl will contail like 16+ koreans (and season 3 could be 25+ koreans then) The first assessment is correct (not that a third of the players coming from one of the three major regions is objectionable or anything - as it was for NASL Season 1, the three regions were not balanced at all, with NA > EU > KR in terms of player balance). The second assessment is a "worst case" scenario that could also happen with EU players. Imagine all the NA players falling out and being replaced by EU players. It might or might not happen, let's see how this goes on. On June 23 2011 07:10 CoR wrote:what your idea to stop the NASL go korean only league ? The best course of action is to keep mingling the scenes and trust in the NA and EU scene to keep improving and growing and automatically keeping things balanced. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 23 2011 07:38 Defacer wrote: As a fan, I have mixed feelings about this issue. On the one hand, I entirely agree that the onus is on the foreign scene to 'man-up' and rise to the occasion. The last thing I want to subscribe to is a farcical league, with players that can't compete at an international level. I would rather pay for a league that is 50% Korean and enjo the best level of play possible. On the other hand, if one of NASL's long-term goals is to provide incentive for NA players to grow, and develop the e-sport scene here, I think the NASL will have to make some kind of concessions in the future, to ensure the NA players with the most potential have the opportunity to participate. This could mean anywhere from scheduling NA player games outside standard work and school hours, or providing small prizes during divisional play for participants. I'm not sure what the solution is, but the pool of NA players aren't suddenly going to become top tier players overnight. Even though the NASL has an incredible prize pool, it's not a strong enough incentive for a 'tweeners' or up-and-coming players to quit their job or school to participant in NASL or other leagues. It's kinda funny how much shit we got from everyone that we didn't at first announce that we were adding Koreans, or we didn't do enough to add Koreans... and now people are worried that there will be too many Koreans. Can't please anyone, apparently  !Honestly, the die has been cast and will fall as it does. We can't really stop Koreans without seemingly incredibly biased. If we maintain an open qualification process, which really is the fairest way, we can't really limit Koreans. If we made it favorable to Americans somehow, then it would be unfair, by definition, to everyone else. I mean, the fact that Koreans and Europeans have to play with NA lag is an inherent advantage to NA players, if you really think about it. If American players aren't good enough, however, to qualify... there isn't much more we can do without totally biasing the competition. That being said, I think Minigun (if he can get past Major) has a very good shot ^_^! | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
However in the long term, I would not be against a rule to prevent the league from being dominated by any one region. (like, having 35+ players from either NA, EU, or KR). Of course, this would probably require a more segmented qualification process then two big Open Tournament, like regional qualifiers where players are vying for a certain amount of spots each, similar to the TSL3 or the WCG or the GSL WC - this obviously comes with its very own set of advantages/disadvantages and difficulties, but I don't think that very many people could honestly object to something like that. Even above being a league of the best players, the NASL has to maintain an international makeup of players. | ||
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