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JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
June 19 2011 22:57 GMT
#401
Wait so people that didn't make the playoffs can sign up in the Open Tournament?
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
June 19 2011 22:59 GMT
#402
On June 20 2011 07:57 JKira wrote:
Wait so people that didn't make the playoffs can sign up in the Open Tournament?

No.
Powerforged2
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada48 Posts
June 19 2011 23:09 GMT
#403
How upset do you think the players that played throughout the entire season would be if the winner from this open tournament take the whole 50k lol

Are koreans allowed to sign up for this as well?? And do you think MVP, nestea or any other notable players would?
Winnipeg, MB (GO JETS GO!!!)
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 19 2011 23:12 GMT
#404
I was expecting MVP to sign up since he plays on the NA server apparently.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 19 2011 23:37 GMT
#405
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


That`s a tough allegation, which moreover doesn't make sense.
Being a pro-gamer means also acting professionally. You are not.
AmishNukes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
June 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#406
On June 20 2011 08:37 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


That`s a tough allegation, which moreover doesn't make sense.
Being a pro-gamer means also acting professionally. You are not.


Pretty sure the $10 is to give the players an investment, however small, in the tournament. So they are less likely to sign up and not show up, and unlikely to sign up if they are just going to be wasting good players' time.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 20 2011 00:20 GMT
#407
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


It has nothing to do with that. I'd rather have 150 pay $10 to join and all show up, than 1,000 people pay $0 to join, and only have 200 show up. I've been hosting tournaments for 6-7 years now. I've hosted 500-1,000 man tournaments before. About 40% of people who sign up actually show up.

The point of the small entry fee is to eliminate no-shows. People care a lot more when they've invested money into it. Also, it's a small price to pay for qualifying for a $100,000 tournament. Even if you have no chance at winning the prize pool, the exposure a player gets by being in the NASL will generate you 10000x this $10 in stream ad revenue, for example.

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#408
For those just joining in the thread: the tournament start will now be Wednesday, June 22nd. Yes, Koreans are allowed to participate. Etc!
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 20 2011 00:23 GMT
#409
On June 20 2011 09:04 AmishNukes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 08:37 00Visor wrote:
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


That`s a tough allegation, which moreover doesn't make sense.
Being a pro-gamer means also acting professionally. You are not.


Pretty sure the $10 is to give the players an investment, however small, in the tournament. So they are less likely to sign up and not show up, and unlikely to sign up if they are just going to be wasting good players' time.


The 10 dollars is to put a very small bar in place, ensuring less fake sign ups and no-shows. To use an example, in the NBA, 40% of all free tickets are never used. Even fairly expensive tickets aren't used if they're "comped".

Have to give people a reason to value the spot. So, easiest way is to put a very small barrier (10 bucks). Should improve it and save a lot of people a good chunk of time, too (as I imagine they'll only get about 500 at most).
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 00:57:52
June 20 2011 00:57 GMT
#410
On June 20 2011 09:23 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 09:04 AmishNukes wrote:
On June 20 2011 08:37 00Visor wrote:
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


That`s a tough allegation, which moreover doesn't make sense.
Being a pro-gamer means also acting professionally. You are not.


Pretty sure the $10 is to give the players an investment, however small, in the tournament. So they are less likely to sign up and not show up, and unlikely to sign up if they are just going to be wasting good players' time.


The 10 dollars is to put a very small bar in place, ensuring less fake sign ups and no-shows. To use an example, in the NBA, 40% of all free tickets are never used. Even fairly expensive tickets aren't used if they're "comped".

Have to give people a reason to value the spot. So, easiest way is to put a very small barrier (10 bucks). Should improve it and save a lot of people a good chunk of time, too (as I imagine they'll only get about 500 at most).
500?

Signup is ending soon and there are 129 people signed up.


A lot less than people anticipated, I'd wager. Looks like the $10 buy-in is a stronger deterrent than previously thought.
Spades
Profile Joined September 2010
United States249 Posts
June 20 2011 03:49 GMT
#411
Why is the travel stipend so small. A round trip for me would be like 700. With the current amount of signups thats 1300$, if it was about people showing up, why not make it a deposit, refunded if you participate.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 20 2011 04:40 GMT
#412
On June 20 2011 09:57 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 09:23 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On June 20 2011 09:04 AmishNukes wrote:
On June 20 2011 08:37 00Visor wrote:
On June 20 2011 04:26 desrow wrote:
Okay so I can't really complain because if you do get in NASL the amount of exposure is well worth the 5$ but seriously..? Bye-in tournaments are a pain. I can understand for the 10$ because they fly you out but the other one-.- It just looks to me like NASL is having trouble financially.


That`s a tough allegation, which moreover doesn't make sense.
Being a pro-gamer means also acting professionally. You are not.


Pretty sure the $10 is to give the players an investment, however small, in the tournament. So they are less likely to sign up and not show up, and unlikely to sign up if they are just going to be wasting good players' time.


The 10 dollars is to put a very small bar in place, ensuring less fake sign ups and no-shows. To use an example, in the NBA, 40% of all free tickets are never used. Even fairly expensive tickets aren't used if they're "comped".

Have to give people a reason to value the spot. So, easiest way is to put a very small barrier (10 bucks). Should improve it and save a lot of people a good chunk of time, too (as I imagine they'll only get about 500 at most).
500?

Signup is ending soon and there are 129 people signed up.


A lot less than people anticipated, I'd wager. Looks like the $10 buy-in is a stronger deterrent than previously thought.



I think it's the travel cost that is a deterrent. Even though there is a $500 stipend, most people can afford the trip without being subsidized by a team or sponsor.

FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 20 2011 04:43 GMT
#413
On June 20 2011 08:09 Powerforged2 wrote:
How upset do you think the players that played throughout the entire season would be if the winner from this open tournament take the whole 50k lol

Are koreans allowed to sign up for this as well?? And do you think MVP, nestea or any other notable players would?


I agree, as a player I think I'd be peeved. I think Ret has to be particularly peeved, his "reward" for finishing #1 in the regular season is a gift against the Open Bracket champion, who could very well be much better than whoever's in the 10th or 11th spots.

I think having the Open Bracket for Season 1 is okay because they did do the tourney based on invites, but I hope in the future they phase out the 15 + 1 and just take the top 16 from the actual players, make people qualify for the season and play out the season before being eligible for the $50k.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 20 2011 15:09 GMT
#414
Even though there aren't a ton of sign ups, I'm glad at least Thorzain, Demu and Dimaga are giving it a go.
the farm ends here
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
June 20 2011 15:13 GMT
#415
wow what a stroke of luck lol. I was actually not going to be able to make the 20th date but now i cna play.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 20 2011 15:30 GMT
#416
On June 20 2011 12:49 Spades wrote:
Why is the travel stipend so small. A round trip for me would be like 700. With the current amount of signups thats 1300$, if it was about people showing up, why not make it a deposit, refunded if you participate.


Make it Reign!

Refunding 500 people a $10 deposit is annoying as fuck.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
zeenix1
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden89 Posts
June 20 2011 15:43 GMT
#417
Everyone complaining about $10 fee is probably a low diamond scrub who is pissed that he now has to pay to go troll a top player.

If you have even a remote chance of making it into the NASL, $10 is nothing. If you don't have a remote chance of making it into the NASL, then either pay the $10 to support NASL and have a chance to get stomped by a pro, or stop wasting everyone's time. You bring nothing to the table other than being another 20 minute annoyance for someone who is actually trying to qualify.


word.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 20 2011 16:20 GMT
#418
Well looks like there is atleast 1 korean signing up... ST_Virus.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 16:44:59
June 20 2011 16:44 GMT
#419
so this is Wednesday now at 1 p.m., correct? Do we have to check-in or anything?
Sup
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
June 20 2011 16:49 GMT
#420
On June 20 2011 07:59 two.watup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 07:57 JKira wrote:
Wait so people that didn't make the playoffs can sign up in the Open Tournament?

No.


Kay that's good. It's more fair that way IMO. How come I saw STAce in the list of notable names though, I must've misread.
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