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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
June 06 2011 14:13 GMT
#28421
On June 06 2011 22:37 DBrave wrote:
Only 1 thing I regret for this amazing tournament is that White-Ra didnt played.
Anyone know why ?


Yeh would of been great to see white-ra there, anyone know why Grubby never turned up, thought i read he was going previously. May of read it wrong, dunno if he would of got out the open brackets though :S
Live and Let Die!
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 14:14:23
June 06 2011 14:13 GMT
#28422
On June 06 2011 23:10 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 23:07 TigerKarl wrote:
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.
Without his attitude in the ZvP Matchup (which i find in favour of Zerg, being a mid-Master Z) he would not have the need to be correct in his judgement and to make everyone else see that "zerg is not supposed to win that matchup"

Man, look at Losira or Morrow. Not only strong ZvP play by them, also very entertaining!


ZvP is Morrow's worst match up. I realise he crushed some ameatur in the open bracket but generally his ZvP stats are pretty bad. I think MC's knocked him out of 3 tournaments.


You didn't see his recent games against Protoss right? He plays a new style lings/balenings/infestor with attack/drop everywhere and he destroyed Naniwa with this style in the WCG qualifier.
BradfordLove
Profile Joined February 2011
42 Posts
June 06 2011 14:16 GMT
#28423
anyone else having trouble downloading replays??
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 06 2011 14:16 GMT
#28424
I still think that Nani, Idra, Thorzain and Sjow were the only ones that even showed some competition to Koreans, others were just stomped.

Also i am very very impressed by Slush's performance, didnt expect hed be top 16 tbh.

I wish that Nani played MMA and Idra played Losira, i actually think that in those match ups Nani and Idra would have won.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 06 2011 14:18 GMT
#28425
On June 06 2011 23:16 SuperStyle wrote:
I still think that Nani, Idra, Thorzain and Sjow were the only ones that even showed some competition to Koreans, others were just stomped.

Also i am very very impressed by Slush's performance, didnt expect hed be top 16 tbh.

I wish that Nani played MMA and Idra played Losira, i actually think that in those match ups Nani and Idra would have won.


Losira training ZvZ with Nestea...glhf Idra
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 06 2011 14:19 GMT
#28426
While undoubtably the top 3 koreans were better this weekend, I do think that Idra, Thorzain (vs Protoss at least) and Naniwa could all compete at a level close to them. Bar Losira vs Naniwa (which was just Nani getting totally outplayed), all 3 can compete at very high levels. Just a shame they choked.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 14:19 GMT
#28427
On June 06 2011 23:13 Samhax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 23:10 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 06 2011 23:07 TigerKarl wrote:
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.
Without his attitude in the ZvP Matchup (which i find in favour of Zerg, being a mid-Master Z) he would not have the need to be correct in his judgement and to make everyone else see that "zerg is not supposed to win that matchup"

Man, look at Losira or Morrow. Not only strong ZvP play by them, also very entertaining!


ZvP is Morrow's worst match up. I realise he crushed some ameatur in the open bracket but generally his ZvP stats are pretty bad. I think MC's knocked him out of 3 tournaments.


You didn't see his recent games against Protoss right? He plays a new style lings/balenings/infestor with attack/drop everywhere and he destroyed Naniwa with this style in the WCG qualifier.


I did see it, but one win versus Naniwa doesn't undo months of losing to Protoss. He lost to I think LoveTT 2-0 in the Stars War tournament recently and 2-0 to Kiwikaki in NASL.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 06 2011 14:20 GMT
#28428
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.


Been right what are you talking about ?

Hes keep whining about zerg been underdog when they have dominated all pro scene - winning 3 times the gsl and a world cup and so many more -

Its annoying for any non fanboy to see such excuses for a player who has nothing under his belt - , been a mediocre code s player and his only " achievement " is the king of the beta tournament , -

while other good players such as jinro getting qqing when they not performing well in tournaments
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 14:22 GMT
#28429
On June 06 2011 23:20 st3roids wrote:
Show nested quote +
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.


Been right what are you talking about ?

Hes keep whining about zerg been underdog when they have dominated all pro scene - winning 3 times the gsl and a world cup and so many more -

Its annoying for any non fanboy to see such excuses for a player who has nothing under his belt - , been a mediocre code s player and his only " achievement " is the king of the beta tournament , -

while other good players such as jinro getting qqing when they not performing well in tournaments


Idra won IGN season 1 and MLG DC as well. I know they're not GSL level wins but his only achievement is not King of the Beta.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
June 06 2011 14:23 GMT
#28430
Btw why the HELL did idra GG the first game in idra vs MMA? He was CLEARLY in the lead.
England will fight to the last American
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 06 2011 14:25 GMT
#28431
On June 06 2011 23:22 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 23:20 st3roids wrote:
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.


Been right what are you talking about ?

Hes keep whining about zerg been underdog when they have dominated all pro scene - winning 3 times the gsl and a world cup and so many more -

Its annoying for any non fanboy to see such excuses for a player who has nothing under his belt - , been a mediocre code s player and his only " achievement " is the king of the beta tournament , -

while other good players such as jinro getting qqing when they not performing well in tournaments


Idra won IGN season 1 and MLG DC as well. I know they're not GSL level wins but his only achievement is not King of the Beta.

Don't forget, he was first foreigner to get into Code S. Also consistently kept getting into Ro16 or higher, usually Ro8 if I'm right. Which is more impressive than Jinro's sprint to Ro4, it shows Idra is much more consistent in high play, never being dropped in code S. Had he stayed in Korea he would easily be mentioned along the names of Nestea and Losira.
liftlift > tsm
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
June 06 2011 14:25 GMT
#28432
On June 06 2011 23:23 KaiserJohan wrote:
Btw why the HELL did idra GG the first game in idra vs MMA? He was CLEARLY in the lead.


Because he saw that he was taking the gold before , ( no way to know he killed his own cc ) and didnt bother checking he is just rebuilding it. ( its like poker , you think its easy observing but playing it with limited information is HARD ) + his premature gg's all the time. Those 2 reasons combined
Ad augusta per angust
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 06 2011 14:26 GMT
#28433

Idra won IGN season 1 and MLG DC as well. I know they're not GSL level wins but his only achievement is not King of the Beta.


My bad then sorry about tournament perfomance , but still if he wasnt the most noticeable na player he wouldnt have got all this hype .

Also its pretty obvious that koreans are miles ahead than non ones terms of sc2 both in mechanics - apm and understanding of game
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
June 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#28434
On June 06 2011 22:48 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 22:44 taLbuk wrote:
On June 06 2011 22:38 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 06 2011 22:11 thepeonwhocould wrote:
I feel like Thorzane, Naniwa and Idra are the only players who really looked capable of taking out the koreans. Thorzane vs MC was really close, Idra looked solid in his first 2 games vs MC and his first game against MMA. Naniwa looked ok vs losira and mc too imo.


Naniwa vs Losira wasn't close. Losira outplayed him completely, even on Testbug, a map he'd never played before.

Thorzain vs MC was overall 4-2 to MC, Thorzain played well but TvP is his best match by far and it's definitely MC's worst, but MC still won.

Idra was great in the 2-0 but MC had done zero preperation being told only a day before he was going and was probably pretty jag lagged. I don't want to make massive excuses but you can see why MC wasn't 100% in this game, and he later beat Idra 4-0 with a proper days rest and time to adjust to the time zones.


By the same logic IdrA was playing horribly after being so tilted from the MMA series, imagine if all 4 of those games went like the last one MC won, it would have been a completely different series.


Idra played really well on Day 1 in general. On Days 2/3 he lost to Thorzain 2-0, MMA 2-0 and MC 4-0. His only win was versus Slush in ZvZ. I think that says quite a bit for Idra's consistancy as well.

MC has also lost quite a bit. In the GSLTL's he was taken taken out when he needed to win two in a row. Won one, lost the other. At the most recent team league, he lost quite humiliatingly against Polt. Now, the last two GSL's, code S and the super league, out in the first round as well...

I'm an MC fan, but by your arguments, MC is equally inconsistent.
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
June 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#28435
But he SAW he was building a new CC with the mutas! look at the end. He had shittons of mutas against SCVs, tanks and a building CC!
England will fight to the last American
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#28436
Has there already been a reaction by Idra to his hilarious gg?
Off-season = best season
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 06 2011 14:28 GMT
#28437
I watched the replay of first Game Idra Vs MMA, and i can't understand, he lost only few drones in his main, he saw that gold base was still building, but he left, wtf was he thinking? He saw all the things but he still left.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 06 2011 14:28 GMT
#28438
Had he stayed in Korea he would easily be mentioned along the names of Nestea and Losira.


Ty for the laughs
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 14:29 GMT
#28439
On June 06 2011 23:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 23:22 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 06 2011 23:20 st3roids wrote:
The sad thing about Idra is that being right is more important to him than being a good player.


Been right what are you talking about ?

Hes keep whining about zerg been underdog when they have dominated all pro scene - winning 3 times the gsl and a world cup and so many more -

Its annoying for any non fanboy to see such excuses for a player who has nothing under his belt - , been a mediocre code s player and his only " achievement " is the king of the beta tournament , -

while other good players such as jinro getting qqing when they not performing well in tournaments


Idra won IGN season 1 and MLG DC as well. I know they're not GSL level wins but his only achievement is not King of the Beta.

Don't forget, he was first foreigner to get into Code S. Also consistently kept getting into Ro16 or higher, usually Ro8 if I'm right. Which is more impressive than Jinro's sprint to Ro4, it shows Idra is much more consistent in high play, never being dropped in code S. Had he stayed in Korea he would easily be mentioned along the names of Nestea and Losira.


Or he might have fallen away like Check/Zenio both of whom performed as well as he did while he was in Korea.
jdreamer
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia296 Posts
June 06 2011 14:29 GMT
#28440
Couldn't find the game between IdrA and MC on the last day?
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