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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
When Jinro went back-to-back in GSL semifinals, did the Koreans get all mad because he didn't speak fluent Korean in interviews? Were they mad because some random white kid they never heard of was doing so well against their all powerful Koreans? No. The Korean fans embraced Jinro, got behind him, and even rooted for him against other Koreans. It would be awesome if others could do the same. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:21 cryL wrote: Well if you want to take that approach, at the end of the day MC == Idra. They took the same number of games from each other in the tournament. I'm not fussed either way, they both got axed. Just saying your logic is flawed. no mc took 4 games, idra took 2? | ||
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Durantula
United States108 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
I'm trying to explain all this as clearly as possible because I know someone is going to quote this and be like "well it's the foreigners' fault for not practicing as hard" No, it isn't. There's so many factors involved that are out of everyone's control as to why Koreans get better practice than foreigners. The only way that it's going to ever come to even ground is a lot of money, and a lot of time. It's not going to happen overnight, and it's going to need a sponsor or wealthy individual with a lot of money to make it happen, and then a lot of time after that for foreigners in a perfectly set up team house to work up to the level that Korean houses are at. And as sad as it is to say, it hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying it's impossible for a foreigner to beat a Korean, and I'm not saying it's impossible for foreigners to one day have the same intensity of practice that Korean pro teams have, but with how things are currently I just can't imagine people expecting any other results than MLG's. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:22 Durantula wrote: So from what I can figure out, MMA is now in Code S and IdrA, Ret, Slush, and Naniwa will receive invites to code A there was no code s invite | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:21 Falcor wrote: i wonder how long it will take foreigners to relize that you dont go to korea to get rich. You go to korea to get good. oh i think they all know, but they want to be rich/comfortable more. (99% of them anyways) | ||
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Durantula
United States108 Posts
Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:22 Fionn wrote: Jeez, some of you guys are ridiculous. When Jinro went back-to-back in GSL semifinals, did the Koreans get all mad because he didn't speak fluent Korean in interviews? Were they mad because some random white kid they never heard of was doing so well against their all powerful Koreans? No. The Korean fans embraced Jinro, got behind him, and even rooted for him against other Koreans. It would be awesome if others could do the same. Yeah, this would be best. But to be fair, I think a lot of foreigners do embrace Koreans. Just look at the MMA chant at the end of the finals. They aren't outcasts or anything. This argument is based in a fringe part of the community. But it should still be discussed, people need to get their ideas out there so we can talk about them and perhaps grow beyond them. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:18 Mailing wrote: Yes. MC may be better than IdrA I don't understand why people are giving someone shit for this, there is only one person who is ARGUABLY better than Mc right now. Only one person? uhh Both NesTea and Mvp have won GSLs since MC won his last, and MKP and Polt have both knocked MC out of the last two GSLs, and then Alicia knocked him out of the currently occurring one. Sooo.. what? That's like saying Fruitdealer is still one of the best players in the world. Don't get me wrong, MC is one of the best players in the world, maybe the best Protoss (probably), but saying he is undoubtedly the best or second best players in the world is just wrong. He did win Copenhagen and Dreamhack, but in GSL he hasn't won a single thing since March... | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:18 Mailing wrote: Yes. MC may be better than IdrA I don't understand why people are giving someone shit for this, there is only one person who is ARGUABLY better than Mc right now. I'm not sure I understand what Joe is saying but it sounds like he is... angrily agreeing with me? I'm just saying that MC broke IdrA. He beat him mentally and so Idra gave up. So therefore MC > Idra.  | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 zev318 wrote: oh i think they all know, but they want to be rich/comfortable more. (99% of them anyways) not going to happen in the foreign scene when koreans start to travel. | ||
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 Durantula wrote: Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program Read it again. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 Durantula wrote: Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program ■At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:21 Falcor wrote: i wonder how long it will take foreigners to relize that you dont go to korea to get rich. You go to korea to get good. Agreed, playing in Korea just for a couple month will improve a player greatly. I would love to see the likes of naniwa and other just to train and play in korea for 2 month. It is not 2 month lost (even if they win $0) if they emerge are better players. You become better faster by playing against the very best. | ||
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schmeebs
United States115 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 Durantula wrote: Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program I don't mean to flame, but its the second bullet point At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:57 EternaL_9 wrote: I'm starting to think it having the koreans for GSL is a bad thing I used to llike MLG so much because I knew a foreigner I liked would win. Now with the best koreans coming over every MLG, the chances of a foreigner winning are slim. No more getting to see your favorite foreigner that you can INTERACT with (not here a translated interview) win MLG. On June 06 2011 11:00 EternaL_9 wrote: no hes a Korean and will always be a korean. we aren't going to watch his stream everyday, here interviews all the time, and watch him on SOTG. no. Im sorry, but this is really pathetic. First of all, what the fuck is the point of being number 1 of a tournament that excludes people because of their higher skill level? Thats like celebrating become Rank 1 of your Platinum division. Yea, it is an achievement but no one on the global level will care or respect you for it. If you want to have a legitimate, respectable tournament that draws viewers and crowds worldwide, you better be damn sure you allow the best of the best to come to the tournament regardless of where they came from. And as for that second quote. Seriously wtf? So Koreans can't learn English? Koreans cant interact with non-Korean fans? what the hell are you trying to tell us here? | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 Durantula wrote: Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:23 Durantula wrote: Really? I thought from reading this that there was http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program Key part: At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Oh wow, quintuple ninja'd. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:21 cryL wrote: Well if you want to take that approach, at the end of the day MC == Idra. They took the same number of games from each other in the tournament. I'm not fussed either way, they both got axed. Just saying your logic is flawed. LOLWUT Your facts are wrong. MC won 4, Idra won 2. At the end of the day. | ||
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