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On June 05 2011 11:12 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:05 doffe wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Its fun how ju count MMAs win against July but not Julys loss.... anyways 20-3 is still pretty awsome It kinda went how it was expected to go though it went pretty awesome for the Koreans. The way I see it only 3 people at MLG (in the pool play) have a shot at taking down MMA July MC and Losira. Those 3 are Naniwa, Idra and Thorzain. Idra and Nani won there groups and Thorzain was in Idras group. Now I know other players have a shot at taking a Bo3 off of them (Sjow who should have beaten MMA and Morrow if he can get out of the Losers Bracket) but lets not pretend they sent over just anyone MMA has possibly the best TvT in Korea and has shown that he can crush high level zergs as well. MC is the best protoss in Korea without question. Losira is probably the 2nd best zerg is korea and if hes not the 2nd best then Julyzerg is. So the only people who can beat the top koreans are the top non koreans.
Bomber and MVP have the best TvT in korea.
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On June 05 2011 11:13 fartdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:10 TheBrofessor wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... MMA, Losira and July are not second tier. actually MMA losira are second tier. they are only just coming onto the scene as big time gamers, haven't established themselves yet, but are getting there, thus second tier. people like nestea, mvp, nada have established themselves at top tier and not flash in pan wonders who just do well for a season or two (cough jinro).
That all depends on your definiton of 'top tier'. If your limiting it to the very top, thats just dumb. MMA and Losira have been beating some of the best koreans, and deserved to be recognized as top players.
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On June 05 2011 11:11 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:10 TheBrofessor wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... MMA, Losira and July are not second tier. top teir being MC Nestea and MVP then yes they are.
So Korea has 3 top tier players?
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On June 05 2011 11:14 Rayansaki wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:06 Aristodemus wrote:
So Idra wasnt trying? You guys man, thats just ridiculous. To be fair, it was Thorzain who suggested that possibility in the interview. He didnt remember than the result still matters in case they meet again tho.
It's called modesty. IdrA didn't play very well so he coined it like that.
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On June 05 2011 11:14 rawrjaaaaay wrote:
What's the point of the loser open bracket? Is it just for MLG points?
you can still fight your way to the championship if you win the loser open bracket
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On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote:
gretorp has not won a series in 2 straight mlgs. That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!! Thank god for this format. This can't be true. Seriously? If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded.
That's not true...
He's going to get a certain amount of points for wherever he finishes, and his seed for the next Event will be based on how many people have earned more points than him.
He can finish as low as 24th in Columbus.
He finished 18th in Dallas
18th place points + 24th place points probably wouldn't be enough to get him seeded. Of course, this all depends on where other players place, who competes in Anaheim, etc. etc..
Each series he wins gives him a higher chance of being seeded in the Top 16, but even finishing 16th here in Columbus would still make it difficult for him to be ranked in the Top 16 come Anaheim.
tl;dr - We won't know where he'll be ranked until the entire tournament is complete, but winning one series won't guarantee him a spot in the Top 16 in Anaheim.
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On June 05 2011 11:11 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:11 nam nam wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... You calling July and Losira second tier? Second tier to MVP, Nestea, and MC, yes.
So funny, you're not even Korean show some loyalty, back in broodwar we celebrated a foreigner taking a single game off of a korean. (And those were often second tier koreans to)
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What is this electonic guitar song from red stream? its so awesome!!!
any idea?
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On June 05 2011 11:13 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:11 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote:
gretorp has not won a series in 2 straight mlgs. That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!! Thank god for this format. This can't be true. Seriously? If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded. ..... Well that is pretty stupid. Actually, I think he needs to win 2 series to survive. Not 100% sure, someone correct me please.
Still... 2 wins in two MLG's and you get seeded? Pathetic format. Doesn't iNcontroL have less than 45% win rate in every matchup and is seeded 4th?
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On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5.
lol you forgot stalife. oh come on and unbunch your panties
You are ignorant and funny thinking those koreans are the same as the koreans who live in korea  come on you know that hahaha
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On June 05 2011 11:13 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. 21-3 is quite dominant
ignoring the lower tier koreans in MLG that went 0-5 I see.
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On June 05 2011 11:11 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... You calling July and Losira second tier?
Losira is pretty much 2nd tier to Nestea, everyone thinks of Losira as the protege of Nestea. I mean he did get 0-3ed by scFOU, Nestea beat scFou.
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How do you watch VODs? I clicked the thing near the 'low' and 'high' quality button, but I can only see 5 VODs with no option to scroll to more. I'm looking for July vs. MMA.
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On June 05 2011 11:11 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:10 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:09 Telcontar wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 Jyvblamo wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 spybreak wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote:
gretorp has not won a series in 2 straight mlgs. That's ok he will still be seeded next MLG!!! Thank god for this format. This can't be true. Seriously? If gretorp can win at least 1 series in the championship rounds, yes he will STILL be seeded. ..... Well that is pretty stupid.
I believe that is wrong. This is the first MLG using the new format, meaning the results of the last MLG were the ones that decided the top 16... which Gretorp wasn't even in, but Socke and HuK couldn't make it (possibly amongst others).
Either way, for this second MLG, they will be seeded based on the past two MLGs, so if Gretorp has another low finish, he will get pushed down by players who have a single top 5 finish or something to that extent.
I'm not positive of all of that, but I'm pretty sure.
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On June 05 2011 11:15 heist wrote:
how will they rank ties in pool play to determine at what round of losers they will enter if head-to-head doesn't work?
probably number of games dropped
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On June 05 2011 11:11 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:11 nam nam wrote:On June 05 2011 11:08 StyLeD wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 redFF wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Well Moon is an average korean and he lost a bit. And the other 4 are without a doubt 4 of the very best players in Korea. If these guys were only playing 4 of the top top top foreigners e.g. IdrA, Thorzain, Nani and Whitera, I'm sure the results would be fairly balanced. The koreans are playing people who are not on their level and not the best the foreign scene have to offer. Ofcourse all of these code s calibre players are pwning random foreigners, but the best of the best are still fairly equal in my opinion. Uh, no. The foreigners you mentioned are the best of the best foreigners. The Koreans sent to MLG are 2nd tier (-MC) compared to the likes of MVP and especially Nestea. Nice try though... You calling July and Losira second tier? Second tier to MVP, Nestea, and MC, yes.
Well FUCK, I guess everyone is 2nd tier compared to MVP, Nestea and MC, Now that you put it that way. (SARCASM).
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+50APM from MC high-fives :D
Great sign.
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On June 05 2011 11:14 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:14 Netsky wrote:
Why did CatZ dodge July in the open bracket? Or is there another reason why he didn't show? He didn't dodge, he missed his game simply.
aka dodge
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