EPTAh well, at least July destroyed Darkforce :D
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I)etox
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Ah well, at least July destroyed Darkforce :D | ||
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Lightwish01
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Fantastic combo. Fantastic casting tonight | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On May 20 2011 11:51 rdj107 wrote: ....And what's your opinion of his decision making now? What he was saying was that the first game was just an early cheese that paid off; nothing relating to skill. My opinion still stands.. he lost both games due to bad decisions. Bad decisions cost you games, low APM you can deal with somehow. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On May 20 2011 13:54 Ruscour wrote: I'm not even going to bother pointing out the million different ways in which you are stupid. Therefore, I will just say that those million ways do, in fact, exist. I'd love to see more Gretal Biscorp, as someone said. TT1 so awesome for talking about the match in this thread, it's not easy being on the receiving end of special tactics :-( Oh dear me, perhaps you should try again. | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
Also, kind of surprised to see Incontrol not in the top 3 in group 2. Still 3 more weeks left though. People are going to start looking a lot hungrier as the final weeks go by. Really exciting. :D | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7799 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Coolwhip
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On May 20 2011 16:34 Coolwhip wrote: Has Whitera lost a game yet? He technically has a forfeit loss to July because of the Dreamhack thing. However, he has not lost a bo3 he's played so far in NASL. | ||
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elementz
United States281 Posts
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On May 20 2011 16:24 Talin wrote: He's still in Spain. Not sure if you mean because he's got school or because he's playing with cross-server lag. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On May 20 2011 12:50 TotalBiscuit wrote: It's a pure play-by-play situation, there is no room or need for analysis. The analyst should not be talking. Sports commentary is not about sharing the mic 50/50, it's about fitting into your role and speaking at the correct time. This is why Gretorp takes the majority of the airtime during quieter moments and I take the majority of the airtime during high-action moments. That's how sports commentary works, it's also what we agreed to do before the cast. You assume that your argument that SC2 commentary is so similar to sports commentary is valid. And some might disagree. In sports action is basically focused on one place (ball in ball games, small ring in fighting games, first few athletes in running,....) the viewer actually sees basically everything he needs to see and the commentator is there to provide more emotions and excitement. In SC2 that is not true, the second caster often has his own monitor and therefore can provide information about important ,often more important than what the play-by-play caster is currently watching, things happening somewhere else on the map which the play-by-play caster missed. And that happens very often. The rest is my subjective opinion. If you want to keep the intensive WPM and basically make any input of the co-caster impossible during tense situations you have to be much better at Starcraft. The reason is that by depriving yourself of his input you have to make up for it by being able to commentate and at the same time at least watch the minimap with the same skill pro players do and have reasonably good game sense to know what is actually important. And I really do not think that even if you do that, the quality of the cast be will anywhere near that of good casting duos that do not have such strictly defined roles and times. Day[9] sometimes has similar problem (more in the past) and he has a lot more experience playing and even then it is much better when he lets the other person have some input even in tense situations. Of course what I said is hard to do well, the casting duo has to be able to pull it off and that might be hard for people commentating for the first time. So in that scenario the strict division of roles might be better solution, but I think it is still possible to let the other caster talk, by having the smallest pauses here and there. | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On May 20 2011 13:11 Gaius Romanus wrote: I think TB has been the best co-caster for gretorp yet. I feel that with incontrol + gretorp, incontrol takes too much center stage. Gretorp + idra was too mellow. Gretorp seems to like the analysis role IMO and TB can play-by-play without dominating the cast. Neither of them are my fav casters (sorry! <3) but the duo worked well. This is very true. Gretorp doing the play by play also highlights his seemingly limited vocabulary and misuse of certain words (contingency still annoys me). Say what you want about TB, from what I've seen his English is a lot more varied than other casters. I don't know if it's a case of Americans (which most other casters are) not expanding their vocabularies but I prefer to hear "that really put a spanner (I wouldn't be opposed to wrench) in XXX's works" once in a cast than "that's problematic" and "he got the long end of that stick" (which is far from an ideal use of that expression by the way) every time anything at all happens. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On May 20 2011 17:39 mcc wrote: You assume that your argument that SC2 commentary is so similar to sports commentary is valid. And some might disagree. In sports action is basically focused on one place (ball in ball games, small ring in fighting games, first few athletes in running,....) the viewer actually sees basically everything he needs to see and the commentator is there to provide more emotions and excitement. In SC2 that is not true, the second caster often has his own monitor and therefore can provide information about important ,often more important than what the play-by-play caster is currently watching, things happening somewhere else on the map which the play-by-play caster missed. And that happens very often. The rest is my subjective opinion. If you want to keep the intensive WPM and basically make any input of the co-caster impossible during tense situations you have to be much better at Starcraft. The reason is that by depriving yourself of his input you have to make up for it by being able to commentate and at the same time at least watch the minimap with the same skill pro players do and have reasonably good game sense to know what is actually important. And I really do not think that even if you do that, the quality of the cast be will anywhere near that of good casting duos that do not have such strictly defined roles and times. Day[9] sometimes has similar problem (more in the past) and he has a lot more experience playing and even then it is much better when he lets the other person have some input even in tense situations. Of course what I said is hard to do well, the casting duo has to be able to pull it off and that might be hard for people commentating for the first time. So in that scenario the strict division of roles might be better solution, but I think it is still possible to let the other caster talk, by having the smallest pauses here and there. I haven't seen the broadcast yet, but you have to consider that TB doesn't do co-casts very often these days and it was the first time (AFAIK) that he casted with gretorp, so if there were some situations where he got into solo-casting-mode, it's totally understandable. Every caster has that problem and it will disappear the more they cast together or with other people with opposing style. Like the NASL, he is improving with every cast. And don't take everything TB says too literally when he is in defensive mode, he tends to exaggerate quite a bit :p | ||
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
 You would think zergs knows by now that mass roach hydra doesnt kill mass colossus. | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On May 20 2011 15:08 Lightwish01 wrote: Total Biscuit and Gretorp actually have a synergy....I was surprised as anyone. I mean the smartest thing NASL could do would be to bring Total Biscuit in full time and put him beside Gretorp. Fantastic combo. Fantastic casting tonight No way. Would have to watch on mute for the rest of the season. | ||
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Juanald
United States354 Posts
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