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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1621
I don't know why but I keep laughing at everyones complains about the 4 gate.

I mean like most protoss players knows its pretty damn standard - and will surely be until new patch is coming.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Shjade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1622
Really hoping the rest of these games aren't just quick "will four-gate win or fail" rounds. Ah well.
Needs more blank race icon.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1623
Guys, a 20 second increase to WG research isn't going to stop 4-gate. It might make 3-gate robo safer, but it's not going to kill 4-gate.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1624
nice try by Hasu with forge defense agains 4gate, but the choke there too big to safely do that
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
MonsterGroup
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1625
Can we get 4 gate cheese as a voting option?
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1626
lol @ people bashing Naniwa for 4 gating.

It's not his fault hasuobs can't hold it.

and really, I have no idea how that build would work against anything.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1627
On May 09 2011 04:15 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:14 Onioncookie wrote:
Damn Naniwa ... is he gonna 4 gate every game?!


if it gets him a win every game, yes


Why not if you can win? I'd do it too without any reason to not to. If I'm playing to win, I would do it 100%.

Even thought Nani is capable of doing a lot of various stuff in PvP, not only 4gates, thats for sure. Guess who created a build to stop a 4gate with fast a sentry and nice wall of gateways, what he did at MLG.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1628
On May 09 2011 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wow, stop bitching about 4 gate people.

Its the STANDARD in PvP.

You're essentially yelling at a zerg for 15 hatching in ZvT, or a protoss for 3 gate expanding in PvZ.

ITS STANDARD.


it's still pretty fucking boring to watch :|
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Kaizume
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia22 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1629
It's sad but true, 4-gate is pretty much the meta. As a Protoss player myself, I'm hoping Blizzard is able to do something to at least toss up PvP
All is dust in the wind
teamrocket1
Profile Joined April 2011
United States69 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1630
What are the odds we are about to see another 4gate? Not complaining though, it seems to be super effective vs hasu
Ragin it up
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1631
On May 09 2011 04:17 Daralii wrote:
Guys, a 20 second increase to WG research isn't going to stop 4-gate. It might make 3-gate robo safer, but it's not going to kill 4-gate.

YEP! Silly Blizzard reverted their 40 second increase.....

Would LOVE to know the reasoning behind that
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
May 08 2011 19:17 GMT
#1632
On May 09 2011 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wow, stop bitching about 4 gate people.

Its the STANDARD in PvP.

You're essentially yelling at a zerg for 15 hatching in ZvT, or a protoss for 3 gate expanding in PvZ.

ITS STANDARD.


Well, people do bitch about "dumb" greedy Zergs (who are 10x better at this game than the people who bitch) going 15 hatch.

People will always bitch.
I
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1633
Why are people complaining about 4 gate. Every other build in PvP HAS to be 4 gate proof because the 4 gate is the go to build. There is no shame in 4 gating in PvP because at the moment, a perfectly executed 4 gate beats everything else in the matchup
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1634
On May 09 2011 04:17 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wow, stop bitching about 4 gate people.

Its the STANDARD in PvP.

You're essentially yelling at a zerg for 15 hatching in ZvT, or a protoss for 3 gate expanding in PvZ.

ITS STANDARD.


it's still pretty fucking boring to watch :|


Hes trying to win a tournament and money, it isnt a showmatch for pure entertainment.
rutian
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey288 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1635
On May 09 2011 04:14 Nero. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:13 rutian wrote:
outclassed. haters can hate.

so playing 4 gate every time is classy nowadays?


no, not being able to do anything against 4-gate is non-classy. HasuObs may have micro, but naniwa's mechanics are far better.
thec0ne
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1636
I think Pros have moved on from 4 gate in pvp's.... anyone see what i did there? har har har
Guthix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States209 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1637
On May 09 2011 04:17 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wow, stop bitching about 4 gate people.

Its the STANDARD in PvP.

You're essentially yelling at a zerg for 15 hatching in ZvT, or a protoss for 3 gate expanding in PvZ.

ITS STANDARD.


it's still pretty fucking boring to watch :|

Nobody is forcing you to watch...
Naniwa fighting!
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:19:19
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1638
On May 09 2011 04:18 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
Why are people complaining about 4 gate. Every other build in PvP HAS to be 4 gate proof because the 4 gate is the go to build. There is no shame in 4 gating in PvP because at the moment, a perfectly executed 4 gate beats everything else in the matchup

That's why people don't really care about 4gating. Everything is either a variation of a 4gate or a build to stop a 4gate.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1639
DAY9 OMFG
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Fayfay
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden128 Posts
May 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#1640
Yeah its the most boring matchup by far :/ Nothing else comes even close to how terribly boring PvP is.
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